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    Pressure Bearing Parts

    A dealer has just told me that a nylon piston head seal is required to go to a RFD

    I understand that cylinders,barrels and pistons are - but surely not seals?

    How can Chambers & others supply seals if this is true?

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    Pressure bearing parts of S1 and S2 firearms are controlled items so if this seal is specific to an FAC airgun then the dealer is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnup View Post
    Pressure bearing parts of S1 and S2 firearms are controlled items so if this seal is specific to an FAC airgun then the dealer is correct.
    Thanks

    For clarity this is a 6 ftlbs 10m target air rifle.

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    I would be very surprised if a standard piston seal for a springer would need to be sold via an RFD ... especially as they seem to be freely orderable from 'the bay'. I know that valve parts for a pump up rifle/pistol have to go via an RFD as I was caught like that a few years ago. In the end I ordered via the USA at a cheaper price, including postage, with delivery direct to me.
    Using the same logic, would a breech seal need to go via an RFD?
    I think the dealer is wrong...... but will accept my failing if proven wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark D View Post
    Thanks

    For clarity this is a 6 ftlbs 10m target air rifle.
    Then the dealer is wrong - go elsewhere.
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    If the definition is a pressure bearing part, then all seals and O rings come into that category. Pressure in a vessel acts equally in all directions, we learned that at O level more than fifty years ago.

    Of course it makes no sense to restrict the purchase of O rings, any more than it makes sense to restrict the purchase of pieces of tube with screw threads at both ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnup View Post
    Then the dealer is wrong - go elsewhere.
    And I would, if they weren't the only UK dealer. I will advise them of the error of there interpretation of the legislation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark D View Post
    And I would, if they weren't the only UK dealer. I will advise them of the error of there interpretation of the legislation
    What is it you're after?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyebull View Post
    What is it you're after?
    Anschutz Superair 2002 compression seal :Part No 8 Compression Seal 400-018 Product Code ZANS 002461

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    Had a scout about but no luck so far - perhaps a dealer abroad might be the answer, if you can get postage lower than the RFD fee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turnup View Post
    Pressure bearing parts of S1 and S2 firearms are controlled items so if this seal is specific to an FAC airgun then the dealer is correct.
    Component parts are also controlled items if you live in scotland and don't have a license


    Are component parts of an air weapon covered?
    Yes, you will need a certificate to own or acquire individual components of an air weapon. This generally means parts which are required to fire the gun. Accessories like sights or stands do not need a certificate.

    Are sound moderators (silencers) covered?
    Yes, you will need a licence to own or acquire a sound moderator for an air weapon.

    http://airweapon.scot/faqs/

    And yes i know the OP is not in scotland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark D View Post
    The Interweb god saves the day ldgrin

    :http://www.waffencenter-gotha.de/sho...4_13_1193.html
    Be sure to tell the UK dealer!

    Out of curiosity, was the item cheaper than the UK?

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    http://airweapon.scot/faqs/

    And yes i know the OP is not in scotland.[/QUOTE]

    get used to it you are getting the licence whether you like it or not just like we did
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    This is the actual law :

    For the purposes of subsection (1)(c), each of the following items is a relevant component part in relation to a lethal barrelled weapon or a prohibited weapon—
    (a) a barrel, chamber or cylinder,
    (b) a frame, body or receiver,
    (c) a breech block, bolt or other mechanism for containing the pressure of discharge at the rear of a chamber,but only where the item is capable of being used as a part of a lethal barrelled weapon or a prohibited weapon.

    The definition isn't that it's a pressure bearing part.

    Tell the dealer to read the Firearms Act section 57 (1D), piston seals are not considered to be relevant component parts and there is no requirement to send them to an RFD.

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