Ge600/MEC/Unique/Esprit Carabine. Free floating barrel???

[tim s]

Nice looking period rifle Russ - what calibre is it?

.22LR, the Strela was a Smallbore. These were made at the Izhvesk arsenal, and I think developed into the Ural 5 and 6 rifles used by many soviet shooters in the '80s and' 90s.

I'm not sure if there was a 300m CF version.

[zooma]

.22LR, the Strela was a Smallbore. These were made at the Izhvesk arsenal, and I think developed into the Ural 5 and 6 rifles used by many soviet shooters in the '80s and' 90s.

I'm not sure if there was a 300m CF version.

Now that would make an interesting alternative to a Martini at the local club eh?

Really nice !

[gordon]

Think the new FWB2800 has a barrel clamp/tuning device ?

https://www.feinwerkbau.de/New-Small-Bore-Rifle

[tim s]

Now that would make an interesting alternative to a Martini at the local club eh?

Really nice !

The NSRA sold (and possibly imported) various Soviet rifles in the 1960s; the Strela, MTS12 (Tula arsenal equivalent) and the "Vostok" CM2 Standard Rifles. A club mate had a Strela 2, which I shot once or twice. These are big rifles; the barrel is 28 or 29in, so much the same as a BSA International, but on a longer bolt action.

[zooma]

The NSRA sold (and possibly imported) various Soviet rifles in the 1960s; the Strela, MTS12 (Tula arsenal equivalent) and the "Vostok" CM2 Standard Rifles. A club mate had a Strela 2, which I shot once or twice. These are big rifles; the barrel is 28 or 29in, so much the same as a BSA International, but on a longer bolt action.

Its enough to make me want to take up .22 rim fire shooting again (but with a rifle this time!).

[tim s]

Its enough to make me want to take up .22 rim fire shooting again (but with a rifle this time!).

The barrels should be capable of high scores on the current prone targets. I suspect few owners clocked up enough mileage to degrade accuracy; many may need a damn good clean though.

The stocks won't fit as well as a modern match, unless you're lucky but you don't expect that for the price. And it's not hard to modify the cheekpiece. I believe that the factory intended stocks to be modified as required.

[RobinC]

For heavens sake Bob,

You are moving your older air rifles on to buy modern ones, and now when you consider small bore, but you like an old one!

Your interest in oldies? That one, BSA Martini's? I bet it would last seconds, until you saw a KK500 Anatomic!!!

And Walther don't make a carbon stock, but G&E do! So you could have an Anatomic Walther, and a Carbon G&E.

Nice example though Russ.

Have Fun
Robin

[zooma]

For heavens sake Bob,

You are moving your older air rifles on to buy modern ones, and now when you consider small bore, but you like an old one!

Your interest in oldies? That one, BSA Martini's? I bet it would last seconds, until you saw a KK500 Anatomic!!!

And Walther don't make a carbon stock, but G&E do! So you could have an Anatomic Walther, and a Carbon G&E.

Nice example though Russ.

Have Fun
Robin

You are right - a KK500 Anatomic would be a lovely thing to own - and you know I have a weakness for the Anatomic stock.

..but the classic lines of Russ's old Ruskie really appeal to me, and if I were to take up .22 rim fire rifle (it is a possibility) I would want to try a less expensive rifle to start with to make sure I could get up again after laying down - this could be a problem at my age!

In truth I have not researched .22 rim fire rifles enough to make an educated choice on what would be best for me to start with, but I do like Walther target air rifles and I think the Anatomic stock is an all time classic and so you are right - if I did go down that road, the Anatomic would be the one I would like to end up with.

[RobinC]

just to return to the original poster:-

You are using a 20+ year old design rifle action and trigger, technology has moved on in those years a lot, and I know the MEC project EC is 2600 Euro cost alone, there will also be extras, such as butt plate, possibly sights, unless you use the old ones.

And, you will still have a 20 year old rifle in a new stock, and a stock that you will need to develop, and you will probably need custom clamps for your barrel.

This is not a ten shot sort out job, it will need many hundreds of rounds of testing, and the associated range time to get the best from it, there are clamp locations to test, and torque settings to ascertain, and even on its best, then it may not (probably won't) be any better, tighter groups, than it is now!
Technology has developed, lock time are faster, triggers are better, sights are better, butt plates are different, you would be better selling your complete rifle, and buying a new modern one, have a modern short action, faster lock time, a modern trigger, modern sights, and a modern stock and butt plate, why do you think the top world level shots use the latest technology, and if you sold the old one, for not a lot more than the cost of doing the same with your old action! The MEC project stock is top tech, why put a 20 year old design in it?

The KK500 is the modern pick of the bunch, it is more ergonomic, better equipped, good butt plates, sights, etc, its proven, and cost effective, and it gets the results!
My wife has a KK500, because she also shoots 300 mt (with a Keppeler) she wanted her KK500 in a Keppeler stock, so she had her two rifles the same feel and balance, this was a project done with the help and cooperation of both Walther, and Keppeler, it shoots superbly, but I can tell you there was a lot of work, testing, and time, to achieve the end result.

My advice, just sell the Centre 10, and buy a new modern well equipped rifle.

Have Fun
Robin

[tim s]

Robin,

I believe Bing, the OP, has acquired a nearly new/old stock barrel, sans stock. The Centre-10 has an Anschutz 5018 trigger; yes, some of the recent designs are better, but it's a sophisticated match trigger, not some single-lever 10lb military job.

The modern rigid actions have an advantage over older designs, but have not rendered them totally obsolete. Would it be easier to buy a complete new rifle? Yes, of course it would, but sometimes it's fun to assemble your own. If you have a good barrel, buying a new stock is far cheaper than a complete new rifle.

To be fair you would have to set up any new rifle, regardless of make, especially if you change to a non-standard bedding.

[Bing!]

just to return to the original poster:-

You are using a 20+ year old design rifle action and trigger, technology has moved on in those years a lot, and I know the MEC project EC is 2600 Euro cost alone, there will also be extras, such as butt plate, possibly sights, unless you use the old ones.

And, you will still have a 20 year old rifle in a new stock, and a stock that you will need to develop, and you will probably need custom clamps for your barrel.

This is not a ten shot sort out job, it will need many hundreds of rounds of testing, and the associated range time to get the best from it, there are clamp locations to test, and torque settings to ascertain, and even on its best, then it may not (probably won't) be any better, tighter groups, than it is now!
Technology has developed, lock time are faster, triggers are better, sights are better, butt plates are different, you would be better selling your complete rifle, and buying a new modern one, have a modern short action, faster lock time, a modern trigger, modern sights, and a modern stock and butt plate, why do you think the top world level shots use the latest technology, and if you sold the old one, for not a lot more than the cost of doing the same with your old action! The MEC project stock is top tech, why put a 20 year old design in it?

The KK500 is the modern pick of the bunch, it is more ergonomic, better equipped, good butt plates, sights, etc, its proven, and cost effective, and it gets the results!
My wife has a KK500, because she also shoots 300 mt (with a Keppeler) she wanted her KK500 in a Keppeler stock, so she had her two rifles the same feel and balance, this was a project done with the help and cooperation of both Walther, and Keppeler, it shoots superbly, but I can tell you there was a lot of work, testing, and time, to achieve the end result.

My advice, just sell the Centre 10, and buy a new modern well equipped rifle.

Have Fun
Robin

All pretty much true, but how much has the tech improved the accuracy of the barrel/action. Ultimately it comes down to the operator, if that operates everything properly it should go in the middle. A nice comfy well sorted stock would help with this, once it's set up correctly, yes, lots of tuning to be had with either the barrel clamps in the EC case but it would also need plenty of work on the butt hook, cheekpiece, handstop, trigger, sights, rear and fore etc etc regardless of what stock.

Modern kit is nice but the price in one hit is out of my reach, so as with my previous rifles it has to be done Frankenstein style.

Not fussed about lock times on the range, I'd be using a spare Gemini butt hook, I have some nice gehmann wind sights going spare which I like and the foresight would be either the new race or a centra score plus, 22mm inserts, Handstops aplenty and access to a good variety of ammo. I liked the look of the centre 10 as it's a chunky thing with a chunky bolt, the shillen barrel appears in superb Nick and with a claimed low shot count (never raced or rallied etc ). But the uit stock is not my cup of tea, maybe for my son when he's a bit older, but not me. I could have a stock machined to fit the c10 (Dolphin was first option) but then it will only fit the c10, barrel clamps would allow another action at some point hence the EC.
If the c10 comes to nothing in my hands then I'll pass it on and probably revert back to my current rifle, made of: 1913 action, Lilja barrel, Walther sights, centra handstop, Gemini hook, home made cheekpiece and the old cast anschutz stock (which I've returned to on many occasions having tried others lol )

Thanks for the input Robin, every view point is appreciated but I have a centre 10 and I'm gonna hang on to it for a while, I would like to be comfortable shooting it too though.

Bing!