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    Quote Originally Posted by rogb View Post
    "their"

    As has been stated, it's not hunting, it's target shooting and most HFTers know that.
    Learning range-finding and wind-judging, though, from various positions would surely help any hunter.

    The rules are different around the country but the main rule set from UKAHFT has been tweaked through the years to reflect the current wishes, technical standards, styles and practices of those who shoot it.

    Shooting metal plates with holes = no need to be chivalrous, but nice *&^%$* try.
    HFT rules were set long before UKAHFT appeared. Everybody thinks that ukahft started hft, they didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDBULL View Post
    HFT rules were set long before UKAHFT appeared. Everybody thinks that ukahft started hft, they didn't.
    This is very true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prone Shooter View Post
    This is very true

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    When was that Nomads film shot? Any idea Bob?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rogb View Post
    When was that Nomads film shot? Any idea Bob?
    Must have been 1993/4 Rog. I wasn't there but know people that were.

    By the way, one of my favourite shoots to attend were yours at LV. That target directly overhead was evil

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDBULL View Post
    HFT rules were set long before UKAHFT appeared. Everybody thinks that ukahft started hft, they didn't.
    Yep but the rules have been tweaked as and when needed, Pete Sparkes et al started proper HFT off, guess who's running UKAHFT and whose rules most clubs run their shoots conform to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDBULL View Post
    HFT rules were set long before UKAHFT appeared. Everybody thinks that ukahft started hft, they didn't.
    Go on then, give us the full history lesson, starting before Total Pest Control which preceded UKAHFT , what were the rules used and series that people shot?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rogb View Post
    Go on then, give us the full history lesson, starting before Total Pest Control which preceded UKAHFT , what were the rules used and series that people shot?
    Quite a lot of airgun history is lost. But CSFTA have been running HFT comps since the mid 90's. Barpc came up with a lot of rules before it spread across the region.

    http://www.barpc.org.uk/history.htm

    Clubs in the region shoot to both sets of rules. CSFTA in the Winter League, and UKAHFT in the Southern Hunters and national series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    Quite a lot of airgun history is lost. But CSFTA have been running HFT comps since the mid 90's. Barpc came up with a lot of rules before it spread across the region.

    http://www.barpc.org.uk/history.htm

    Clubs in the region shoot to both sets of rules. CSFTA in the Winter League, and UKAHFT in the Southern Hunters and national series.
    Quite so Rob, CSFTA / BARPC Hunter has been around a long time, that is true!


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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    Quite a lot of airgun history is lost. But CSFTA have been running HFT comps since the mid 90's. Barpc came up with a lot of rules before it spread across the region.

    http://www.barpc.org.uk/history.htm

    Clubs in the region shoot to both sets of rules. CSFTA in the Winter League, and UKAHFT in the Southern Hunters and national series.
    I've got an old flyer somewhere from about 1995 for one of our 1st HFT's which was held alongside an FT during what was then the Nockover Classic shoot, the predecessor to the Easter Bunny Bash.

    The initial rules (as per Rob's in the video) were...

    No fiddling with gun or scope.
    You must touch the peg with part of your body.
    No sitting.
    Targets no further than 45 yards.

    That was it, nice and simple. The rules stayed pretty much the same for a few years and the CSFTA winter HFT used these until around 1999/2000 when John and Josie took on the reigns of running the winter league and tweaked then to take out certain ambiguities such as targets closer than 7 yards and setting kill zone sizes. It was still refreshingly simple and no one cleared any courses back then.

    This was mainly due to the course setters designing courses where you had to work for a target. No cleared lanes of foliage, targets in obscure places, the pegs away from line of sight so you had to shoot "off-hand" rather than resting on a peg, in short, pretty rough shooting. We didn't worry about whether you could take your glasses off for one shot but not the next. You were either a good shot or crap. You had a good day you won the prizes, a bad or normal day and you'd laugh it off in the pub afterwards. Most folks had simple rifles and 3-9X scopes. S300's and early Daystates were dominant with a scattering or Prosports and Shamals not forgetting all sorts of springers.

    If someone moved off a peg, you'd just kick their boot back on to it with some appropriate comment and not call foul after the shot had been taken and insist the card was marked down.

    Everyone could walk the course before shooting and discuss how they might take the shot. Banter was legendary and no one ever died, argued or fell out because of the rules. It was just a bunch of like minded people having a good day out. I'm not saying it's any different today because I no long shoot comps but it may be rose tinted glasses, but I preferred the "old" days.

    At BARPC, we still use the old format as much as possible and don't shoot UKAHFT. All targets are between 7-45 yards "apart from those that aren't" to quote Gary C.

    Bob
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