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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJ View Post
    I did used to find it a little ironic seeing guys in those stiff target 'suits' at the club when you can easily train your body to achieve stability and 'rooting' with 15/20 minutes a day without relying on external equipment.

    Don't get me wrong, I definitely have some gaps in my knowledge on the target suit things as it's not my discipline, but one thing I do know that even the basic principles of Tai Chi can reduce or eliminate that 'fight or flight' adrenalin response we all have when under pressure.
    The target clothing is definitely in addition to physical fitness, not instead of. Most martial artists would struggle to stand still in a load-bearing position for 75 minutes, however stable their stance might be in the short term.
    Malcolm Cooper famously did something like 60 lengths of his local pool every morning and would watch TV from a standing position with his rifle pointing at the wall to build and maintain the core stability muscle groups. International grade shooters will do a lot more than 15-20 minutes of physical training a day.

    Anyone vaguely into 3-Position and Air Rifle will need a level of muscular endurance. The gear helps iron out minor movement but it's not a magic bullet and ultimately your body is still carrying the weight of the rifle (although the weight should primarily be carried by bone structure, not muscle tension). All disciplines benefit from good cardio and the ability to keep a cool head and low heart rate under pressure.
    Last edited by Hemmers; 21-06-2013 at 02:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutty View Post
    That's an interesting statement Robin, I feel that it is useful to consider what may lie behind the recommendations by some coaches. First of all I should say that nowhere in any of the published shooting literature have I found any direct recommendation that any of the above are particularly beneficial. Indeed the only place I have found mention of one of them, Yoga, was a in a trial carried out by the US Army AMTU that concluded that it appeared to confer no additional benefit when compared with current sport psychology techniques. Where Yoga, Tai Chi etc. do score is the social aspect of their practice. This provides athletes with incentive and encouragement in a group environment quite different from the almost solitary and inward looking characteristics of shooting training.

    At the end of the day there are no "magic bullets" and all the psychology in the world cannot make up for imperfect technique. The relaxation and control techniques can help keep those techniques intact under pressure but if they are imperfect to begin with you are on a hiding to nothing.

    Rutty
    There is a certain chicken and egg syndrome in some cases here as there is a natural reticence in people to try something new. For an art form that is over 300 years old for example, it is only recently that the NHS have recognised Tai Chi as an evidence based exercise program to reduce falls in the elderly. Yoga is very different to Tai Chi in many ways yet it is natural to lump them both together but I would state that the benefits from Tai Chi are considerably more than just social.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hemmers View Post
    The target clothing is definitely in addition to physical fitness, not instead of. Most martial artists would struggle to stand still in a load-bearing position for 75 minutes, however stable their stance might be in the short term.
    Malcolm Cooper famously did something like 60 lengths of his local pool every morning and would watch TV from a standing position with his rifle pointing at the wall to build and maintain the core stability muscle groups. International grade shooters will do a lot more than 15-20 minutes of physical training a day.

    Anyone vaguely into 3-Position and Air Rifle will need a level of muscular endurance. The gear helps iron out minor movement but it's not a magic bullet and ultimately your body is still carrying the weight of the rifle (although the weight should primarily be carried by bone structure, not muscle tension). All disciplines benefit from good cardio and the ability to keep a cool head and low heart rate under pressure.
    Sure, understood on the suits and thanks for the insight into Mr.Cooper, superb dedication.

    One particular practice in Tai Chi is zhan zhuang or 'standing post'. This requires the practitioner to stand in a parallel stance, arms in a 'holding a ball' position at chest height for long periods. Regular practice of this alone with the correct positioning/alignment of the lower spine, the top of the head and the relaxing of all muscles teaches you to use bone structure instead of muscles. It also creates a very stable stance.
    My teacher is very traditional, my black sash exam was a 24hr fitness test that culminated in 'standing post' being held for 2 hours. Granted this is extreme and not required by all but your post did highlight further similarities between serious rifle training and Tai Chi. Thanks.

    All the best
    Rob

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    Lots of reps, using the rifle as if you are shooting works well, ie. dry firing (obviously only if you have a PCP...with a spring gun you can still take your stance and aim ) or just loads of practise if you are lucky enough to have the facilities. I read an article somewhere ( A.G.'s book of the rifle?) about an Army service rifle champion many years ago who would just stand and aim his gun for at least an hour a day when he could, thus building up the muscle groups (and memory) he used when in competition.

    There is a theory that the human body needs to repeat something at least 6000 times before it gets instinctive, I can understand this as I play guitar as well, and can now make chord shapes in mid air before my hand touches the fingerboard, whereas once I would need to look down and painfully place each finger in position.

    General fitness and associated benefits will also help...I was doing a lot of cycling and observing a diet over the last two years, and at one point had dropped from over 16 stone to a tad over 12 stone, plus had not been fitter for years. At this time my scores were noticeably higher.

    ATB, Ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbear2 View Post
    There is a theory that the human body needs to repeat something at least 6000 times before it gets instinctive, I can understand this as I play guitar as well, and can now make chord shapes in mid air before my hand touches the fingerboard, whereas once I would need to look down and painfully place each finger in position.
    The 10000hour rule says it takes 10000hours to become a master of something. Not just an expert though - you get to expert in less. 10,000 ours would get you to world class level - the Bobby Fischer equivalent of your field.
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    Wish I had more time to shoot let alone "downward dog"

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