Is the 223 & 22-250 bullet head the same ?

[bewsh]

The BC isn't quite as good as the 53gr V-Max

but the quality and real world results in MUCH better

just google for the amount of people with issues with 53gr

I ran 52s in the .222 and shot them out to 400yds without issue
certainly enough accuracy and energy to knock a fox over at 300+

they are foxes not wild boar

an extra 2-300fps is not going to save a crap wind call on a moonless night with the rain coming down your neck

[Mini Magnum]

Theres not a huge difference in terms of trajectory, between .223 40grvmax , .243 58gr max and .22-250 40gr vmax.
.243 is slightly flatter using 58gr vmax to 400yds than the .22-250 with 40gr vmax, half inch difference. The .223 is virtually the same out to 300yds using 40gr max, then at 400 drops 3" more in comparison to the others. As a rough example.

Personally I would go for the .243 its has equal laser like shooting to a .22-250 and is deer legal for all species in the UK.

I used a .243 for a long time and was tempted by a .223 for foxing with night vision, so i can see the animal drop in the sight due to the softer recoil of the .223.

If using fast bullets the difference is next to nothing out to 300yds, same goes as a comparison with .204 and .223 if using light 40gr heads..its a nats nob difference..

[Elliott]

but the quality and real world results in MUCH better

just google for the amount of people with issues with 53gr

I've honestly never had an issue with them and I've reloaded hundreds

[jackal1]

I've honestly never had an issue with them and I've reloaded hundreds

I have in my old .223 tikka T3 lite 1-12", they would keyhole in that. Although they where not reloads but factory superformance 53grn ammo. I changed to federal premium 40grn and never looked back, but they where £29 a box 5 years ago .

[warbucks]

My Tikka lite has the worst grouping of all the amo iv'e tried with factory Hornady 53g v-max, yet with home loaded Hornady 53g v-max its very good in accuracy and knock down power, i have tried seating the factory bullets deeper but it doesn't seem to make any difference, maybe the fasted speeds of the factory rounds just doesn't suit my rifle.

As for the faster 40g amo in 223, i can say from first hand experience there is more fox runners than there is with 50g-55g bullets, and i'm even talking about correct shot placement for heart/lungs.

Dave (warbucks)

[jackal1]

As for the faster 40g amo in 223, i can say from first hand experience there is more fox runners than there is with 50g-55g bullets, and i'm even talking about correct shot placement for heart/lungs.



I don't know why you would have that experience Dave because it certainly wasn't mine with the federal premiums.

[warbucks]

As for the faster 40g amo in 223, i can say from first hand experience there is more fox runners than there is with 50g-55g bullets, and i'm even talking about correct shot placement for heart/lungs.



I don't know why you would have that experience Dave because it certainly wasn't mine with the federal premiums.

I tried a box of Hornady 40g v-max, and a box of Federal 40g BT v-shok, both accurate but there was a more noticeable amount of fox runners, the impact noise was also reduced.
I'm not suggesting that 39/40g bullets in 204r is like this because i don't know.
At the end of the day you have to use what you have confidence in, for me its 50g-55g v-max type bullets.

Isn't there a minimum of 50g bullets in certain calibers for deer, there must be some reason for this.

Dave (warbucks)

[stillair1]

50grain for muntjac Dave.

[jackal1]

I tried a box of Hornady 40g v-max, and a box of Federal 40g BT v-shok, both accurate but there was a more noticeable amount of fox runners, the impact noise was also reduced.
I'm not suggesting that 39/40g bullets in 204r is like this because i don't know.
At the end of the day you have to use what you have confidence in, for me its 50g-55g v-max type bullets.

Isn't there a minimum of 50g bullets in certain calibers for deer, there must be some reason for this.

Dave (warbucks)

Sounds to me like it's time you got yourself over to your local gunshop and ordered/bought a new rifle. Get rid of the confidence sapping .223 and buy either 22.250 or .243, if bigger is better then either of those will cure your problem.

[Treebone]

As for the faster 40g amo in 223, i can say from first hand experience there is more fox runners than there is with 50g-55g bullets, and i'm even talking about correct shot placement for heart/lungs.

I agree, i have also known several runners after boiler room shots with 39grn Blitzkings from a 20BR.

TB.

[bewsh]

I've honestly never had an issue with them and I've reloaded hundreds

Thats great
plenty have
just search on here or other forums or wider

as for .20 call vs .22

it has nothing to do with drop and everything to do with wind calls when shooting sub 50gr out past 250yds
1" better elevation at 300yds isnt going to save on a wet windy night on the moors