The Baikal Makarov Thread

[dumpit]

That 99 looks like it was part of a very nice set and probably fairly difficult to replace today.

Yes, the latest T19 Maks are based on the narrower PM frame and have markings stamped under the muzzle rather than along the slide (other than serial number). The Mak at bottom right is an example.

The marking you asked about is the badge of the notorious KGB. A 'Limited Edition' with the KGB badge was produced in 2017 with a choice of either a blued or plated finish.

Sorry, I'm not looking to part with any just yet.

Kind regards,

John

A KGB version who would have thunk it! Would love to see some close ups of it.

I particularly like the bottom T19 and the Nickel one. I have a PM incoming for you if you don't mind (not offering to buy so don't worry )

[Josie & John]

A KGB version who would have thunk it! Would love to see some close ups of it.

I particularly like the bottom T19 and the Nickel one. I have a PM incoming for you if you don't mind (not offering to buy so don't worry )

I've added a few more images including some close ups of the pistols you asked about.

In one of them, the T19 is fitted with a genuine pair of Baikal grips intended for the .380 calibre Makarov. They fit fine but the magazine will not fully engage with the grips fitted so some fitting looks to be on the cards at some point.

Kind regards,

John

[dumpit]

Interesting! I imported those same Baikal grips from across the north Atlantic (maybe the same one even?). Sold it along with my fully reblued gen 5 on the makarov forum many years ago before it shut down (shame!).

Not entirely sure what to think of the position of the Baikal engraving on the T19 but with that said the gun looks much more authentic with just the serial number on the side.

A really excellent collection!

[Josie & John]

Interesting! I imported those same Baikal grips from across the north Atlantic (maybe the same one even?). Sold it along with my fully reblued gen 5 on the makarov forum many years ago before it shut down (shame!).

Not entirely sure what to think of the position of the Baikal engraving on the T19 but with that said the gun looks much more authentic with just the serial number on the side.

A really excellent collection!

Thanks for that - good of you to say.

I like the square front and lack of usual trade markings on the T19. The finish is a very deep black rather than blue. Maybe an arsenal refinish?

I sourced the grips a couple of months ago through t'bay but still can't work out where the constriction is when it comes to inserting a mag. I'll get a mate that is more skilled than me to look at it once life returns to normal.

Kind regards,

John

[Josie & John]

Another request to Makarov owners:

If you look closely on recently manufactured PMM frame Makarovs, you will see a seem along the bottom of the frame, when viewing from underneath. It is also seen on some trigger guards.

The seem is not a feature of my 2005 dated pistol and I wonder if forum members reading this can check to see if their pistols have a frame seem?

Specifically, I'm looking to narrow down when the same was introduced.

BTW, it does not seem to be a feature of PM frame or Gen 5 pistols, so it is just the PMM frame pistols that have this feature.

Thanks all.

John M

[eliano]

I currently have
98 (euro) blued (yet to see another)
T99 blued
T00 half nickel
T02 (custom full polished with no serial numbers )
T06 blued
T12h half park
T12h full blued
T15 blued (has milled slide like 12h, unusual)
T14 full nickel
all with booklets etc bar the custom one.
I've almost had every model to date and probably sold around 20-30 different ones over the years , I haven't had the latest gen 5 type one and the KGB that I've never seen before until now . Haven't collected for at least a few years but can't part with any .
I also stock the spares and sell on the famous auction site for a few years now

[Josie & John]

I currently have
98 (euro) blued (yet to see another)
T99 blued
T00 half nickel
T02 (custom full polished with no serial numbers )
T06 blued
T12h half park
T12h full blued
T15 blued (has milled slide like 12h, unusual)
T14 full nickel
all with booklets etc bar the custom one.
I've almost had every model to date and probably sold around 20-30 different ones over the years , I haven't had the latest gen 5 type one and the KGB that I've never seen before until now . Haven't collected for at least a few years but can't part with any .
I also stock the spares and sell on the famous auction site for a few years now

That's a nice little haul. I too have a T15 with the machined extractor slot and PMM sized original Bakelite grips, which I obtained from MWM in Germany. The pistol is also MGM marked just above the grip, which is a nice touch. I have also seen a T15 with the standard soft black grips that has the extractor slot, which suggests a batch of cut slides was used in 2015.

Does anyone know what the HWG DE markings mean on some slides? It's a fair assumption they had something to do with the German market but it would be nice to determine what the acronym means. Before anyone suggests Weihrauch - it's nothing to do with them as I have already asked them!

Kind regards,

John