Airtech rifles, Deal or no deal!

[evohuntsman]

Didn't the poster with the issues fall out with his mate over this and hasn't it been done a million times before?
Is there going to be any explanation about the family bereavement excuse?
From an outsider looking in this seems a petty squabble and I dont mean any disrespect to either side there. Can the board have some clarity who is responsible for the whos, whys and whatever's?

hi pumpygun, ive not fallen out with my buddy at all , we still shoot together everyweek, this is carl lying again to try and pass the book across to me, he is basically talking total rubbish mate, and there are people on here reading this now who want to comment but cant as this will cause conflict between them and mr LIAR Garbutt as he still has there guns

i like you and everyone else are also waiting for an explanation as to why he has told numerous different people with a gap of approx 14 months that his wifes mother has died TWICE which is the reason THEIR rifles cannot be completed, it was not me mate that caught him lying but another member on here, he has had some peoples rifles over 3 years, my shooting buddys rifles took just over 2 years to get back and one of those wasnt even the correct serial number but thats another story, he is bitter because NOT ME but someone else on here has caught him lying through his teeth and its a dispicable excuse saying your wifes mother has died, the guy is seriously mental using that excuse not once but twice, so come on Carl please let everyone know why you would say such a sickening thing

[milek]

Possibly the most disappointing thread I have ever seen on here. To see a member using the death of a family member to suit a purpose brings things to a new low. Very low.

[Trumpetier]

Possibly the most disappointing thread I have ever seen on here. To see a member using the death of a family member to suit a purpose brings things to a new low. Very low.

Twice

[jeff0100]

Possibly the most disappointing thread I have ever seen on here. To see a member using the death of a family member to suit a purpose brings things to a new low. Very low.

I have to agree.

He also hasn't addressed any of the questions aimed at him or the issues raised, just came on and had a go at people.

I for one will definitely never deal with Airtech, so its a NO DEAL from me.

[airtech]

I have to agree.

He also hasn't addressed any of the questions aimed at him or the issues raised, just came on and had a go at people.

I for one will definitely never deal with Airtech, so its a NO DEAL from me.

I do not remember ever asking you to deal with me. So that’s ok people can and will deal with who they want.

[airtech]

Last reply from me on anything relating to this The guy in question bought some carbon from my wife on her e bay. The problem lies with him and her it’s nothing to do with me or what I do. I do not need to be getting involved with any of this yet I have talked with my wife as soon as I was informed about the carbon issue. She has informed me and I also have informed the guy who bought the carbon she will 100% sort it out on her return to the Uk. As far as I’m concerned that’s the end of it.
You can all assume what you want. Yes in the past a few white lies have I told people to give me time to get things sorted when I was inundated with work. And a awful lot of bull shit has been put up against me by people may I add who have never had anything ever done by me.
I also do not have to explain my personal life to everyone when anything ref me is mentioned. No tuner of any rifle is perfect if anyone was to search any of the top tuners you will find issues people have had. But again non of my concern. A lot of people I meet should not even have a gun and a lot of rfd probably feel the same.

Anyway end of all posts of me. I don’t need this. I don’t advertise for work on this site I don’t need to.

[sandyman1963]

It’s sad to this this argument on the site. One thing though telling some one that your mother in law has died is a fair statement but the to use the excuse a second time is I must say out of order.

It’s bugger all to do with me if I was going to send a rifle to you for work to be carried out I would rapidly change my mind after reading this thread.

So my advice is to come clean admit you told porky pies.

[rogb]

Last reply from me on anything relating to this The guy in question bought some carbon from my wife on her e bay. The problem lies with him and her it’s nothing to do with me or what I do. I do not need to be getting involved with any of this yet I have talked with my wife as soon as I was informed about the carbon issue. She has informed me and I also have informed the guy who bought the carbon she will 100% sort it out on her return to the Uk. As far as I’m concerned that’s the end of it.
You can all assume what you want. Yes in the past a few white lies have I told people to give me time to get things sorted when I was inundated with work. And a awful lot of bull shit has been put up against me by people may I add who have never had anything ever done by me.
I also do not have to explain my personal life to everyone when anything ref me is mentioned. No tuner of any rifle is perfect if anyone was to search any of the top tuners you will find issues people have had. But again non of my concern. A lot of people I meet should not even have a gun and a lot of rfd probably feel the same.

Anyway end of all posts of me. I don’t need this. I don’t advertise for work on this site I don’t need to.

The guy didn't know your wife had "nicked" your business name without your knowledge..., he believed he was dealing with your company.
As for the "white lies", a "double death story" beggars belief.

[lonewolf]

well I just have say to you Carl that you are wasting your time making any more comments on here has no one will never believe a proven LIAR,
just have a good rest in china and be prepared for when your wifes other mother passes away in the near future,

[bucketboy]

Last reply from me on anything relating to this The guy in question bought some carbon from my wife on her e bay. The problem lies with him and her it’s nothing to do with me or what I do. I do not need to be getting involved with any of this yet I have talked with my wife as soon as I was informed about the carbon issue. She has informed me and I also have informed the guy who bought the carbon she will 100% sort it out on her return to the Uk. As far as I’m concerned that’s the end of it.
You can all assume what you want. Yes in the past a few white lies have I told people to give me time to get things sorted when I was inundated with work.

Well that’s news to me, first time I knew your wife was away, was on this thread. I have not received any emails from her in recent weeks. The last email I had was included a screen shot of your conversation with the courier about the missing item. YOUR name is on that screen shot 9 times. While it does not mention me by name, you refer to me as “MY customer “ it is possible that you ( or your wife) mistakenly sent me the email, although I doubt that.

As for telling lies, you have repeatedly accused me of not telling the truth, however, apparently saying that one of your relatives has died, to you is just a “white lie”.

Seriously Carl, your moral compass is totally ****** up

The sad thing is, all it is over £16, a simple, “sorry, I will deal with, ASAP”

Bb

[Zomboid]

I have no business with Carl and just take people how I find them. I've followed this thread and others like it, as it seems to keep cropping up.

I try not to read too much into Facebook posts but you only have to spend a few minutes trawling through to see the attitude spilling out, lies or not. A psychologist would probably come to the conclusion that there is a lot of self loathing in there.

I note that the first mother in law death occurred last October - this coincides with a thread on another forum stating as such and referring to a facebook post. Curiously all posts on FB at this point have either been deleted or never happened. The later posts (late October and early November) don't refer to any funerals, although he does make reference to being in China for an extended time. So perhaps the MIL was ill or passed away last October?

By comparison to other independent rfds who fall ill or have some problems, I often see them post on forums themselves to advise of this or ask for someone to do it on their behalf. People appreciate this sort of personal touch.

To a customer Airtech is Airtech, regardless of the email address. If your wife is trading as AirTech too how on earth is anyone supposed to second guess that?

As I said I have no beef with Carl, and his work is clearly respected by a lot of people. If you read this Mr AirTech then my advice would be to stop the ranting and excuses and starting looking after your business... and quite rightly you can tell me to mind mine too

[mrmatty]

Absolutely disgusting behaviour to lie about a relative dying. Shame on you!

[Geoff555]

Hello, I don't know Airtech but thought I would just make a comment that when one has painted oneself into a corner, may be by taking on too much, buisness and or domestic wise, then Deperation and confusion runs rife. A breakdown usually follows.
So I feel for Carl who I beleive needs help. I am not making excuses for his actions just standing outside looking in.
Thats all chaps.
All the best.
Geoff.

[evohuntsman]

its a shame really as the work ive seen him do really is nice even if Both my buddy,s guns are now leaking, nothing that a seal kit wont sought out,

Airtech ( Carl Garbutt ) have basically cut his own throat, his threats to say 1 "a rifle is over power so inform the police, ( rifle was 770 fps with 8.4g exacts and NEW ) 2 " i wont finish your rifle if you keep trying to contact me, it will be done when its done ( took over 2 years ) " 3 " the wifes mother has passed away so im not in the country" 4 " the roof is damaged on my work shop " 5 " im not in the country for the next 4-7 weeks due to attending a funeral in china twice " 6 " im still waiting to install my new machines " 7 " my 3 phase power has blown up " 8 " i have been raided by armed police and they have taken ALL my guns away and only returned 2 ( my wifes ) " 9 " i need to get this fork lift out of my garage and repair and rebuild it (the garage)" 10 " the serial number your asking for i havn,t got so i cant find your rifle "

please note :
number 8,,,, Carl has admitted this was a total lie, yet he said this to his friends also,this was basically said as a stalling tactic to stop us trying to contact him to get the rifles back

number 10,,,, when he returned my buddies rifle the first thing he noticed was the serial number was incorrect, he had the serial number on his bsa box and also had the serial number written on a repair note because when bought new the rifle developed a leak, Carl totally denied this was the serial number of the rifle he was given but did admit to his wife ( again ) moving all his in for repair rifles, he said he had no idea who,s was who,s rifle and would have to wait until people contacted him re their guns, he basically gave my buddie a gun back that was not actually his or the action was not his because the stock was his that he sent in with the rifle,

these are just a few of the excuses that we have had from airtech ( Carl Garbutt ) and some of you will of heard these before, if you take a rifle to Airtech then do so at your own risk, his business skills are non existent,his attitude towards genuine paying customers is a disgrace and you cant guarantee getting the gun you took in back off him,

a very sad state of affairs from someone whom calls himself an engineer, what makes me laugh is Roger is my best mate, we shoot together every week and as soon as i made a comment on this thread he was instantly on the phone to my buddie threatening myself, telling him ( Roger ) to tell me to and i quote " shut the up or else "

my best advice to you Mr Garbutt is do not threaten anyone you dont know because one day it will come back to haunt you as this thread has done and its all your own doing, you have been PROVED to be a very dishonest RFD , you have been PROVED to be a untrustworthy RFD, your bringing shame on yourself and all whilst your poor wife sits in the background getting the blame for everything when it has now been PROVED it was you all along,

my simple advice to all on here is simple,,,,, DONT EVER TAKE A RIFLE TO AIRTECH, if you do then you have been warned of the type of person you are dealing with and you might have to wait a long time to get your pride and joy rifle back ( if its yours ) because he might just might be burying his mother inlaw a third time


thankyou Carl for letting people see you for what you really are

best wishes in your future employment as a funeral director/ grave digger because you have certainly dug a big hole here


ps, Roger wont be bringing his rifle back to you, i will personally get it sorted for him by someone whom is a real engineer

[airtech]

hi pumpygun, ive not fallen out with my buddy at all , we still shoot together everyweek, this is carl lying again to try and pass the book across to me, he is basically talking total rubbish mate, and there are people on here reading this now who want to comment but cant as this will cause conflict between them and mr LIAR Garbutt as he still has there guns

i like you and everyone else are also waiting for an explanation as to why he has told numerous different people with a gap of approx 14 months that his wifes mother has died TWICE which is the reason THEIR rifles cannot be completed, it was not me mate that caught him lying but another member on here, he has had some peoples rifles over 3 years, my shooting buddys rifles took just over 2 years to get back and one of those wasnt even the correct serial number but thats another story, he is bitter because NOT ME but someone else on here has caught him lying through his teeth and its a dispicable excuse saying your wifes mother has died, the guy is seriously mental using that excuse not once but twice, so come on Carl please let everyone know why you would say such a sickening thing

You need to get your facts right Roger informs me he does not see or speak with you any more. I wonder why. 2 I do not have anyone’s rifles who is not aware that I’m out of the country you can slate me off all you want it will never effect what I do FACT