Explosives Certificate - Reclassification of blackpowder substitutes

[Abasmajor]

I decided to include an application for an explosive certificate as part of my recent FAC renewal and consequently sourced a compliant wooden box for storage of 777 which I use quite a lot in my BP revolvers. The FEO visit went smoothly and the FEO couldn't have been more helpful while taking a look at my storage cupboard and box. The certificate was free of charge and will cover the purchase and storage of my powders without too much additional effort.
Maybe all police forces are not so sympathetic or helpful, but my relations with Sussex Police have always been friendly and efficient.

Brian

[severnsider]

I decided to include an application for an explosive certificate as part of my recent FAC renewal and consequently sourced a compliant wooden box for storage of 777 which I use quite a lot in my BP revolvers. The FEO visit went smoothly and the FEO couldn't have been more helpful while taking a look at my storage cupboard and box. The certificate was free of charge and will cover the purchase and storage of my powders without too much additional effort.
Maybe all police forces are not so sympathetic or helpful, but my relations with Sussex Police have always been friendly and efficient.

Brian

Hmmmmm.. two months so far for me (well, a year and two months actually due to "Covid issues") and still no nearer to knowing when I might receive notification of an inspection, as I've been advised that just six of the 150 applications received since 1st August have been processed. If there is an issue with 777 being classified as an explosive then our Constabulary doesn't seem too worried that it's not being stored accordingly. Meanwhile DesG's box sits in lonely isolation just pining for the day when it will have its lid lifted and a couple of bottles of Swiss dropped into its welcoming interior.

[Turnup]

It wouold be interesting to know just how many preventable accidents have occurred because BP substitutes were not stored in an explosives box. I'm betting the answer is zero.

[severnsider]

It wouold be interesting to know just how many preventable accidents have occurred because BP substitutes were not stored in an explosives box. I'm betting the answer is zero.

I'm sure you're 100% correct! I'm just keen to try "proper" BP but the time it's going to take to get a licence is beyond a joke.

[Turnup]

I'm sure you're 100% correct! I'm just keen to try "proper" BP but the time it's going to take to get a licence is beyond a joke.

The explosives licence is pretty much a rubber stamp job if you have a muzzleloader ticket and it's ree so bang in an applicatin and just wait it out. I have tried a variety of BP subs and I really don't like them so it's BP only for me, but of course this prevents use on indoor ranges.

[loiner1965]

i sent my license in to put sec 58 revolvers as per home office rules on to my ticket.
they told me to send license in back in march and it be around 2 weeks
well i got it back ens of september but i did put in 2 variations as well.....it was frustrating as i kept om enquiring how long it would be but was told its on the desk awaiting signing.
i understand what they did but they never explained anything which would have eased my mind somewhat.....they should have said they are signing all of the sec 58 applications on the very last day before it became law and that would have been satisfactory to me.....now when i got my ticket back i forgot to add ammo on etc lol so i wrote to them and they said just send in.....i also send back my bp license to add 777 on as well and it all took around 2 weeks and no charge for the ammo etc which i thought was excellent

[enfield2band]

i sent my license in to put sec 58 revolvers as per home office rules on to my ticket.
they told me to send license in back in march and it be around 2 weeks
well i got it back ens of september but i did put in 2 variations as well.....it was frustrating as i kept om enquiring how long it would be but was told its on the desk awaiting signing.
i understand what they did but they never explained anything which would have eased my mind somewhat.....they should have said they are signing all of the sec 58 applications on the very last day before it became law and that would have been satisfactory to me.....now when i got my ticket back i forgot to add ammo on etc lol so i wrote to them and they said just send in.....i also send back my bp license to add 777 on as well and it all took around 2 weeks and no charge for the ammo etc which i thought was excellent

I'm curious about this statement. A friend of mine moved house last year and he told the police he was going to add three antique revolvers to his FAC. They told him he needed to apply for a variation.
This is news to me and other shooters I know. If there has been a law change (Section 58) it has never been mentioned by the MLAGB. I e-mailed the MLAGB to query the variations my friend had to apply for and according to them nothing has changed you can still put on a Section 58 and take it off when you want to. (According to my local FEO (Manchester) any Section 58 put on FAC cannot revert back to antique status) This I am told is not true.

Either I am/have missed something or the FEO's are making it up as they go along.