Oldest HW80

[T 20]

I found this list on the web and thought it would interest some of you. It's seems serial numbers were not model / type related but included everything done in order regardless. I dont know how accurate it is or if it is official but here it is anyway. Maybe those that know the true age of their own rifle could shed some light as to wether it is acurate or not.

Ah well Mr Bellycrawler I can answer a few of those questions for you as I wrote the list in the first place --- though it seems to have been added to with some later serial numbers, which is great because it's what I hoped would happen.

1951 weihrauch started production.

The 100,000 numbers were published in Airgunworld in the early 1980s.

The one millionth gun was a gold plated HW35 and was featured on Airgunworld front cover in 1983.

Leather seal to synthetic seal serial number was published in the Airgun Book by John Walther.

The change point from 25 to 26mm on the 77 is from Chambers' and VMac's websites.

Introduction dates for the different MKs of 77 are from adverts in Magazines and Jim's announcement in SAR.

Most of the rest of the serial numbers and dates are taken from German, American and Italian websites with the dating coming from Emails from Weihrauch.

I just stuck everything together one night when there was nothing on telly and stuck it up on the BBS in the collector's section ---it's everywhere now.


All the best Mick

[Bellycrawler]

Ah well Mr Bellycrawler I can answer a few of those questions for you as I wrote the list in the first place --- though it seems to have been added to with some later serial numbers, which is great because it's what I hoped would happen.
I just stuck everything together one night when there was nothing on telly and stuck it up on the BBS in the collector's section ---it's everywhere now.
All the best Mick

Just googled & waded through the junk, that list seemed about the best one. Started something good & worthwhile by the look of it.

[Mach 1.5]

Following an email from Weihrauch. Ser No 900182 was delivered in 1981..Rifle now ready for full makeover. Mach 1.5

[bigtoe01]

MAG imported R1's into the UK and explained they did this because they could not get HW80's, they imported around 30 or so and fitted HW35 springs to them to reduce the power.

This was 1981....so i have no clue what was first LOL

I have a real old one here, barrel was rusty though so was swapped, early 1981 manufacture, if i can find the barrel again I will post up the serial no

[T 20]

MAG imported R1's into the UK and explained they did this because they could not get HW80's, they imported around 30 or so and fitted HW35 springs to them to reduce the power.

This was 1981....so i have no clue what was first LOL

Hi Tony

According to Dr Beeman the HW80 came first.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....12#post6294012




All the best Mick

[bigtoe01]

Hi Tony

According to Dr Beeman the HW80 came first.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/showthread....12#post6294012




All the best Mick

I know, BUT Alan at MAG was insistent they could only get the HW80 by importing R1's and did so for around 3 months before they could get stock of EU HW80


And remember Alan and Graham knew Dr Beeman, they went out to see him etc, so there may be more to the story than you think

[Rapidnick]

The 'problem'-that is if you regard it as a problem is that barrels and actions are totally interchangeable so anything we encounter today may have 2 serial numbers, 1 serial number or----you guessed it, no serial number at all. What fun!!
As a side issue does anyone know when HC became the 'official' importer of HW rifles into the UK? Not that it matters much except for those who think evidence of paying full price for an 'authorised' import is a guarantee of quality and proudly advertise their rifle 'with HC stamp' or similar wording when selling it. Personally I couldn't care less where it originates: condition and specification are all that matter to me. Any maintenance required can be done by anyone with a reasonable knowledge of tools and the warranty is pretty much unnecessary unless the owner is a total novice.

[Olas]

Please add to the list;

1371914 delivered in Nov. 1994. (Hull Cartridge verified by email)

Thanks