Bsf - Bavarian Air-rifles

[BTDT]

Thanks for the offer Roger - but no thanks.
Pre- 1970's eh? Thank you. Any more info anyone on this model or any BSF related item?

ATB
Ian

Ian, I used to have some 1970s American "Gun Digest" annuals (the wife loaned them to a former work colleague and I never saw them again ) and I'm pretty sure Wischo air rifles were in there.

Might be worth keeping your eyes open for a copy. It's quite possible that the 65 only went in any quantity to the USA.

[I. J.]

Ian, I used to have some 1970s American "Gun Digest" annuals (the wife loaned them to a former work colleague and I never saw them again ) and I'm pretty sure Wischo air rifles were in there.

Might be worth keeping your eyes open for a copy. It's quite possible that the 65 only went in any quantity to the USA.

Ive been down that road Jim via the net and a couple of airgun collectors in the States who, while obviously hearing of and owning several of the Wischo rifles, of various models, had not heard of a model 65!
Weihrauch also manufactured version of the BSF models for Marksman including models 28,40,55, 56,58 59, 70, 71, 72 and 75 but NOT a 65.
Very odd.

ATB
Ian

[Paddy_SP]

I'll make my position clear. Sadly, I do not own any BSF's (yet)...

[Shed tuner]

I may actually get round to shooting mine someday - very well made gun, this post ahas me thinking that maybe I should keep it afterall ?

[chuckjordan]

Bought my first AG back in high school, a Wischo 55D. Back then I shot it maybe 2x daily as I had much time on my hands. I wore the bluing off the barrel and had it reblued. Excellent guns (esp. for the price) except for the trigger.

I've disassembled it a few times to tune it as it has had 3 springs (the latest is a Maccari). A tricky bear to disassemble/reassemble, but not hard one you know how (the rear site is the trick).

And yes, this Wischo is in the US.....

pics: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/letmeo...?.dir=/3bbare2

Chuck

[BSFNUT]

http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=1527

This shows the pictures of my BSF's with a catalogue from the late 1970's.

Ian - I also have a 1958 parker hale catalogue with some BSF's in (54 and 60)

I suspect the 65 was either confined to the home market in Germany rather than the US, or a model that was quickly discontinued. Yours has an adjustable trigger screw in the end cap I seem to remember so may be this was a prototype ?

[I. J.]

http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=1527

Yours has an adjustable trigger screw in the end cap I seem to remember so may be this was a prototype ?

Thats what I thought Roger but it has the serial number C958.

ATB
Ian

[jonnyone]

Afternoon all,

well- I will "come out" and admit to owning three. A '55 deluxe, a'54 (not entirely sure which model though- very basic walnut stock) and an '80.

How many more are out there?

I do know that kevin.ronnie has a few as he was my "main man" when looking around for one and I think he had a '54 for sale recently. Nice chap to deal with by the way.

Dave

[DM80]

BSF's horrid looking things

dave.

[Pen]

Had a couple of BSF in the past:-55 and a 70.In answer to somebody question on this thread- beeman Precision Airgun Guide (seventh edition) they only show 1 BSF Wischo (55) in the airgun comparison table (page13) also Wischo Custom match 'cm' pistol on page 52.

Cheers
Pen

[plyguy2002]

hi guys...I owned an S70 in the late 70's and was a nice little gun. if I remember right it was an expensive gun and a little austere compared to the FWB's and Weihrachs. a brilliant little gun and would love to own a S70 or B55 again

[BTDT]

http://www.airgunforum.net/agf/index.php?showtopic=1527

Excellent work. Thanks for that.

The B55 is the most archetypal-looking break-barrel in existence. It's the break-barrel's break-barrel - if you could only put one break-barrel springer in an illustrated encyclopedia, it or the S70 would be the one to place.

Never thought about that but, on reflection, I think you're right.

Your comments on the recoil of the 55 ring a bell - I remember that mine was quite 'lively', which is probably why I sold it but kept the sweeter-shooting if lower power HW50. I wonder how the 55 might respond to a synthetic piston head and less spring because, if you could achieve reasonable power (say, close to 11fpe) and tame the discharge movement, it would be a lovely little rifle to shoot.

[gedfinn 2]

Hi all, Yes I have one BSF 54 , Bought it from a gunshop (A number of years ago! ) It came with 2 more guns, The owner said he had never seen one before, As regards "Power" in the 60-70,s the top guns were all pump ups, Sheridan, Crossman, Setra, And SHARP !, Some other high powered springers were around too, I still have one, Original 35 S, big gun, (This one had the Ether Injection unit fitted) Ala, Barracuda, ( No it wasn,t on when I got it) I have shot the break barrel BSF,s but they are too light & Jumpy ( Just my opinion) The 3 band pressing on the BSF is identical to my Haenals, ? 302-303, Cheers PS I have an Airsporter Stutzen coming ! Tap loader V, Nice, cheers again

[BSFNUT]

[QUOTE=BTDT;1471788]Excellent work. Thanks for that.




Jim, coming from you that is a real compliment thanks.

Just to continue the debate and this excellent thread, I think that the BSF also started the movement towards using .177 for vermin control.I started using this calibre in late 1977 after the early articles in AGW by Eddie Barber buying a BSF B55 std and had MAG fit it with an 'Export' spring which had an unusual purple hue to the tempering. I was using a .22 BSA Airsporter before that which was the best model available so I was told . Bear in mind that airguns were not actively promoted much by gunsmiths and their attitude was that you were looked down upon ( and this did not change for decades, and is still to be found today in certain shops ) many sports shops sold airguns but only the UK models for example a BSA Mercury was about £30 when an Original 50 or HW35 was double that.

This was when the Webley MK3 could still be found in the shops ( although production finished in 1975 , the Diana G77 and 79 and BSA Airsporter and Mercury were the best of British.

Few shops had the German HW, Originals, East German Haenals or BSF's.

Anyway, back to the B55, It had the power in .177 that the BSA 's, Dianas and Webleys of the time did not .

Beeman went on to enthusiastically support and promote .177 particularly with the FWB Sport and subsequently HW80 /R1 (although he later changed to .20) with his Airgun catalogues

Pre AGW, I used to read Guns Review and the author of 'airgun scene' Dennis Commins also promoted .177 (though he was a Target shooter )and DR Hughes had started to import and promote through the magazines small ads column BSF, HW and Original and offered new lubricants and decent German ammo like H&N to get the best out of these guns.

[jonnyone]

Excellent work. Thanks for that.




Never thought about that but, on reflection, I think you're right.

Your comments on the recoil of the 55 ring a bell - I remember that mine was quite 'lively', which is probably why I sold it but kept the sweeter-shooting if lower power HW50. I wonder how the 55 might respond to a synthetic piston head and less spring because, if you could achieve reasonable power (say, close to 11fpe) and tame the discharge movement, it would be a lovely little rifle to shoot.

Evening Jim,
Thats another future project of mine- so I will keep you posted!

Dave