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    There's little can be done but I'd ask to be shown the valve & the test it has failed and mention that you were not aware the DIN outlet was tested under BS EN 1802 only the cyl-valve fit, better still if you know the thread & can refer to the cyl-valve thread by size, I'd even ask to see where it says the outlet needs testing in the procedure, & make it clear you think they have caused any damage to make it fail.

    If they think you know your stuff they're not going to try it on

    Luckily I trust the chap I take my gear to & he knows I used to work on HP gas systems & cylinders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrybear View Post
    There's little can be done but I'd ask to be shown the valve & the test it has failed and mention that you were not aware the DIN outlet was tested under BS EN 1802 only the cyl-valve fit, better still if you know the thread & can refer to the cyl-valve thread by size, I'd even ask to see where it says the outlet needs testing in the procedure, & make it clear you think they have caused any damage to make it fail.

    If they think you know your stuff they're not going to try it on

    Luckily I trust the chap I take my gear to & he knows I used to work on HP gas systems & cylinders.
    This sounds like a sensible approach... At least if nothing else it may make them think twice about trying it on (if that is what they are doing!) if not then theory would have it they should be sympathetic and at least properly explain and demonstrate what is happening.
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    I had 3 bottles tested last year, 1 was very old and rough, 1 was old in good condition and 1 was fairly new in good condition, The two older ones had been out of test for a very long time but they all passed without any problems whatsoever. I would be demanding they show me the faulty part before I hand over payment.

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    Asked my local today whilst getting 4 fills, they said about 2 a year fail that particular test, so considering that they fill dozens of bottles a day 5 days a week, you are either extremelly unlucky or being scammed to make up the bottom line!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spray1Mark View Post
    Asked my local today whilst getting 4 fills, they said about 2 a year fail that particular test, so considering that they fill dozens of bottles a day 5 days a week, you are either extremelly unlucky or being scammed to make up the bottom line!
    That's my gut feel but I can assure you I bet I'm not the last.

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    Personally, I'd wait for Parwins every time around Peterborough. The only people taking the valve out are the testers, and as said, it's very rare for a thread failure.......

    I know Paul is in for a bypass, just hope he gets through that and is back in the shop soon...







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    JerryD is offline Will only use cherry lipbalm
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    £61 my @rse.......they'd be making 20+% even if they bought at retail!





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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryD View Post
    £61 my @rse.......they'd be making 20+% even if they bought at retail!.
    Yes Jerry and there's very little I can do about it and that was why I posted. Now they've got my bottle I have to pay or they scrap it - short & curly's.

    And... even if I was to somehow get them back I'd still have to pay for the test and I wouldn't be surprised if they purposely damage the threads (if not already) so that any second opinions / tests would have the same outcome.

    I've learnt my lesson and I'll just have to pay out this time. Will go elsewhere next time. But I don't know of any other local testers other than Parwins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryD View Post
    £61 my @rse.......they'd be making 20+% even if they bought at retail!





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    By the time you add postage and the work then it’s not far off. What do you want to save the £10 of vat and the trade discount?

    The thing holds 4500 pounds per every square inch. Threads fail. I’ve had one go on a bottle that was only on its 2nd test. Same deal. Unless you think you’ve been caught in a wholesale scam for what seems to be about £20 profit and only affects two people who ever come in here then the likelihood is the thread has failed and the simple fix is to get those qualified to fix it to fix it.

    Sod it, have a tantrum, save £11 and put the thing in with a set of grips. It’s only 300 bar. In fact why bother buying new? See if you can get one of the 1/2 dicky out almost out of test bottles on social media and save yourself more.

    £60 on something that can let go and cover a football field in under a second when it does...
    Last edited by RobF; 06-07-2018 at 12:49 AM.

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