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    Three shot groups are plenty.

    If you shoot more than three shots and any open up the group ... then just ignore the ones that open up the group and measure the best three ... and that's how accurate you can shoot a group.

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    3 shots with centrefire, any more than that gets expensive.
    5 with rimfire and 10 with air.
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    Depends on why I am shooting the group. Pellet testing will be groups of 10. Checking zero after maintenance may well be 3 shots if on target.
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    Once zeroed I tend to use the 3 shot method to check and then dots on paper one pellet at each.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bozzer View Post
    Three shot groups are plenty.

    If you shoot more than three shots and any open up the group ... then just ignore the ones that open up the group and measure the best three ... and that's how accurate you can shoot a group.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Why waste ammo? Just shoot one pellet. Lets all be in the next Olympic team!
    Ha ha, do you both remember the thread, with the guy stacking 3 pellets on top of one another, resting on a fence post from a boggy ditch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickenbacker View Post
    Ha ha, do you both remember the thread, with the guy stacking 3 pellets on top of one another, resting on a fence post from a boggy ditch?
    Boggy ditch gives same effect as sliding-sledge recoil damper, provided the fence post is floating in the bog umska as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    I paced out 43 yards with a mate and then stacked three pellets on him. It was a bit difficult getting him to stand still during the stacking, but I did it. We aren't friends any more though, and I don't recommend it as I have to go shooting on my own now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bozzer View Post
    Three shot groups are plenty.

    If you shoot more than three shots and any open up the group ... then just ignore the ones that open up the group and measure the best three ... and that's how accurate you can shoot a group.
    Why waste ammo? Just shoot one pellet. Lets all be in the next Olympic team!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Why waste ammo? Just shoot one pellet. Lets all be in the next Olympic team!
    Don't shoot any, I'm as good as I want.(It does vary occassionally)
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    I think a minimum of 10 shots or a full magazine (whichever is greater) at individual targets so you can see each individual pellets POI.
    One main advantage of airguns compared to powder burners is POI/accuracy does not change due to the barrel heating up so shooting 10+ shot groups really pushes this small advantage home.

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    Bloke on the range did a good youtube vid explaining why 3 shot groups are useless:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dhPTf18_mw

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