Just to add, for those not in the know, TX in TX200 stands for Turner x2- Ken and another unrelated engineer who worked on the project.
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Just to add, for those not in the know, TX in TX200 stands for Turner x2- Ken and another unrelated engineer who worked on the project.
Never go off half cocked....
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Do you want to elaborate?Originally Posted by Baxterbasics
Just to add, for those not in the know, TX in TX200 stands for Turner x2- Ken and another unrelated engineer who worked on the project.
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The Mac 1 and 2 were both designed and built by Ken Turner, with input from Dave and Ivan.
Thats why it was possible for Ken to take his designs to Air Arms without things becoming litigious.
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Richard is spot on, Ken Turner made his first airgun in 1982 that was a multi pump up. He started making his first break barrel springer that year too, pre dating the Venom guns,. going by dates that Geezer posted. I'll add some links tomorrow to back this up.
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Here is an AGW article from the 1980's, where Ken Turner mentions his first airgun that he made in 1981:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rhvib97m96...urner.pdf?dl=0
It was completed in 1982, I know this, as I own it and it has a date stamped on it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1we2g0wnhr...15413.jpg?dl=0
As mentioned in the article, Ken started making his first break barrel from scratch that year with a barrel latch (like the Mach 1), and steel shims on each side of the breech bolt and pivot bolt (Sound familiar? This was an improvement made by Venom to the HW80s, and probably used on the Mach 1). In 1982 I believe Ken made an underlever prototype similar to the ProSport, hence predating Venom Mach 1 or 2.
I am basing the dates on Geezer's post, can anyone confirm exactly when Mach 1 and 2 were first produced?
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Some great info coming up on this thread. I'll be editing the Pro Sport info on my site!
Gareth, I'll post a link to your article later.
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Yup ... Great info indeed.
I'm enjoying the thread. Many thanks to the contributors.
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That's interesting
He talks about using delrin pegs on the piston to eliminate metal to metal contact.
Was this the first gun to have such bearings?
And also using an ox Spring!!
There's me thinking delrin was a fairly recent idea
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The Mac 1 and 2 were both designed and built by Ken Turner, with input from Dave and Ivan.
KT DID NOT design and build the Mach 1's or Mach 2's he worked for a company that Dave and Ivan approached to build these wonder guns. They sent the designs and the company produce parts and then the venom team built them at the gun barrel works. CD stands for Copied Design as they copied the Mach 1 trigger for the first examples of this trigger.
Mach 1 was introduced 1987 and only 17 made. Mach 2 produced around 1990 and only 8 produced. Trooper Walsh first approached venom in 1987 to produce a wonder lever hence the Mach 2 was first thought of in 1987.
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This was my understanding of the sequence of events as well.
People who have been there focus on the fundamentals. People who sit at keyboards all day focus on the trivial and inane.
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I am aware that the "T" is for Turner but never heard or read anywhere about the rest. Where did the info come from?Just to add, for those not in the know, TX in TX200 stands for Turner x2- Ken and another unrelated engineer who worked on the project.
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