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    Quote Originally Posted by davederrick View Post
    They are exempt in the US aren't they ?
    Yes, mostly. However, there ARE states in the Union where ANY kind of a handgun is prohibited. Surprise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    Yes, mostly. However, there ARE states in the Union where ANY kind of a handgun is prohibited. Surprise?

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    I've a pal who ( understandedly ) bitterly resents the UK handgun ban. I love to recount, in his hearing, of standing at the counter of a gunshop in Coeur d' Alene in Idaho. The chap in front of me had just selected a pistol and the assistant completed the sale by saying ' Right, Sir, I just need a major credit card and sight of your Concealed Weapon Permit and that's it!' 2 minutes later he was on the street, armed and dangerous.

    Wonder if I can lure Pete into reading this ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by walnutfarmmick View Post
    I've a pal who ( understandedly ) bitterly resents the UK handgun ban. I love to recount, in his hearing, of standing at the counter of a gunshop in Coeur d' Alene in Idaho. The chap in front of me had just selected a pistol and the assistant completed the sale by saying ' Right, Sir, I just need a major credit card and sight of your Concealed Weapon Permit and that's it!' 2 minutes later he was on the street, armed and dangerous.

    Wonder if I can lure Pete into reading this ......
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    Well, I hafta advise you that as the buyer already had a CCW, it was not necessary to have the usual formal check, which can take up to three or four days. Rarely as in Oregon, it can take as long as twenty seconds, where all you need is your Oregon ODOT DL and a suitable method of payment for guns or ammunition. ALL transactions, however, have to be noted by the dealer, to cover his a** in case of any future hassle.

    I'm a little unhappy that you added the remark 'armed and dangerous', - not needed, Sir. The FACT hat he has a CCW means that he is legally entitled to carry a handgun for self-defence, or, acting as an 'armed citizen' in Federal Law, to use the gun to defend others if necessary, or to hold a person caught in a criminal act IF the state in which his CCW is issued permits this. As such, he is not dangerous, except to another threatening person armed and in a mood to cause harm to other innocent people. Where we live in Oregon for part of the year, everybody has a CCW, and remember too that Oregon is an 'open carry' state, except in metro Portland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    Well, I hafta advise you that as the buyer already had a CCW, it was not necessary to have the usual formal check, which can take up to three or four days. Rarely as in Oregon, it can take as long as twenty seconds, where all you need is your Oregon ODOT DL and a suitable method of payment for guns or ammunition. ALL transactions, however, have to be noted by the dealer, to cover his a** in case of any future hassle.

    I'm a little unhappy that you added the remark 'armed and dangerous', - not needed, Sir. The FACT hat he has a CCW means that he is legally entitled to carry a handgun for self-defence, or, acting as an 'armed citizen' in Federal Law, to use the gun to defend others if necessary, or to hold a person caught in a criminal act IF the state in which his CCW is issued permits this. As such, he is not dangerous, except to another threatening person armed and in a mood to cause harm to other innocent people. Where we live in Oregon for part of the year, everybody has a CCW, and remember too that Oregon is an 'open carry' state, except in metro Portland.

    tac
    No offence intended. It was rather more a flippant reference to the way he'd be viewed here.

    And thank you for addressing me as ' Sir '. Normally the only time that happens is when it prefaces the remark ' You'll have to leave '.

    Another flippant remark, IIRC stolen from the Simpsons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walnutfarmmick View Post
    No offence intended. It was rather more a flippant reference to the way he'd be viewed here.ATVB, Mick
    Sir, you are aware, I assume, that almost 3000 [three thousand] subjects of the United Kingdom also have a CCW permit? They - police and prison officers present and retired, members of the judiciary and NIA, certain local counsellors and former members of the UDR - all carry a firearm in order to preserve their lives, and as such, would not be dangerous except to their would-be killers. I, too, carried on a daily basis in NI when out of uniform. I was determined to be VERY dangerous to any threat that came MY way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tacfoley View Post
    Sir, you are aware, I assume, that almost 3000 [three thousand] subjects of the United Kingdom also have a CCW permit? They - police and prison officers present and retired, members of the judiciary and NIA, certain local counsellors and former members of the UDR - all carry a firearm in order to preserve their lives, and as such, would not be dangerous except to their would-be killers. I, too, carried on a daily basis in NI when out of uniform. I was determined to be VERY dangerous to any threat that came MY way.

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    I didn't realise that it was anything like that number, but then can't honestly say that I'd given it any consideration in the first place. I remember that one of the policemen held in a London embassy siege in the 70s was armed at the time and presumably the Royal Protection Squad but would not have expected there to be as many as 3000 at any one time.

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    cannon

    many thanks i am going to get one

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