Is there room for CO2 in target/competition pistol shooting

[Old Fart]

Gregory,

We were thrown a lifeline recently named NATTS, but what happened, the various organisations could not agree on a policy.

They all like to be in their own ivory towers wielding a little bit of power here and there, but are they bothered about "The Bigger Picture", I think not.

You know I am glad that I was born in 1949 because at least I had the chance and I grasped it with both hands to shoot all sorts of different firearms. What chance has anyone got in the next fifty years.

Sorry not to mention Co2

[Gregory]

Gregory,

We were thrown a lifeline recently named NATTS, but what happened, the various organisations could not agree on a policy.

They all like to be in their own ivory towers wielding a little bit of power here and there, but are they bothered about "The Bigger Picture", I think not.

You know I am glad that I was born in 1949 because at least I had the chance and I grasped it with both hands to shoot all sorts of different firearms. What chance has anyone got in the next fifty years.



Sorry not to mention Co2

well were well off topic now lets wrap it up and start a new thread, "is there any room for foreign b**tards" that should get a good debate going

[hwtyger]

Between 10 and about 22 degrees there ís no temperature issue for sure..And thats a cheapo Tau 7..
Temperature issues are só exagerrated!! They're nót crosmans, you know!
Near zero, than you might start to see some poi shift. Bút:
- thats what yr test shots are for, few clicks, solved
- is it surely the gun? I dont shoot well around zero either..
- pcp will react at these temps as well
99% of the CO2 matchpistols use cilinders. So shotcount is NOT an issue. Just fill up before a match. Thats what you do with pcp isnt it so why not with co2??
Filling CO2 cilinders is no problem at all. You can use simple fire bottles, or restaurant CO2 bottles.
ONLY issue in some countries, is the data on the cilinders. Bút thats equally true for older pcp's.
Another issue is changing weight/balance when co2 empties.

I really dont understand; they shot worldrecords with co2, won medals etc. Than why on EARTH should wé, normal shooting humans, nééd pcp?? We dont..We might wánt pcp, but dont nééd it.. If those pistols are good enough for world record, they're surely good enough for us normal match shooters arent they?
CO2 is by FAR good enough.

[Old Fart]

I have noticed over the years there's the NEW gun syndrome. Some shooters must have the latest piece of kit to give them an "edge", and they will spend a fortune doing this.

It does not matter what you shoot, be it shotgun, rifle or pistol they have to have the newest version. It doesn't matter if they don't shoot it as well because it's new but they need to get used to it, they might even shoot it better than the old one, sometimes they will not.

Manufacturers are really good at bringing new designs out, they have to be to stay in business, but does the average shooter shoot a higher score with this new gun, sometimes and I am talking about "Target" quality guns not plinking.

I enjoy all my shooting and just because somebody is a bit old fashioned it's no big deal.

[Gregory]

I give up! Co2 is great everybody should shoot Co2 anyone that doesnt is a show off. I'm off down the pub this aft to get the barman to fill up my lungs with the stuff and I'm off to spit pellets out from now on.

Hoo f*kn ray!

[magicniner]

I give up! Co2 is great everybody should shoot Co2 anyone that doesnt is a show off. I'm off down the pub this aft to get the barman to fill up my lungs with the stuff and I'm off to spit pellets out from now on.

Hoo f*kn ray!

Oh go on,
Keep it going, it's no fun without some unfounded opinions and invalid comparisons with cars which rusted & shed their subframes
Regards,
Nick

[Old Fart]

Nah, I've had enough

I used to have a Mini which had a rotten subframe though...honestly

[Gregory]

Oh go on,
Keep it going, it's no fun without some unfounded opinions and invalid comparisons with cars which rusted & shed their subframes
Regards,
Nick

nope my minds made up, co2 is the way foward, who needs a decent pistol engineered by german / austrian experts, when I can have an ex soviet pistol made out of a lump of russian tractor iron and powered by fart gas.

Magicniner you dont really have the best arguments, though I have to admit that I dont necessarily need a decent weapon to shoot 8's if thats the sum total of your submissions then well done you win.

[derekm]

Between 10 and about 22 degrees there ís no temperature issue for sure..And thats a cheapo Tau 7..
Temperature issues are só exagerrated!! They're nót crosmans, you know!
Near zero, than you might start to see some poi shift. Bút:
- thats what yr test shots are for, few clicks, solved
- is it surely the gun? I dont shoot well around zero either..
- pcp will react at these temps as well
99% of the CO2 matchpistols use cilinders. So shotcount is NOT an issue. Just fill up before a match. Thats what you do with pcp isnt it so why not with co2??
Filling CO2 cilinders is no problem at all. You can use simple fire bottles, or restaurant CO2 bottles.
ONLY issue in some countries, is the data on the cilinders. Bút thats equally true for older pcp's.
Another issue is changing weight/balance when co2 empties.

I really dont understand; they shot worldrecords with co2, won medals etc. Than why on EARTH should wé, normal shooting humans, nééd pcp?? We dont..We might wánt pcp, but dont nééd it.. If those pistols are good enough for world record, they're surely good enough for us normal match shooters arent they?
CO2 is by FAR good enough.

WOT E SED

I give up! Co2 is great everybody should shoot Co2 anyone that doesnt is a show off. I'm off down the pub this aft to get the barman to fill up my lungs with the stuff and I'm off to spit pellets out from now on.

Hoo f*kn ray!

Sounds like you don't know much about decent beer either, if you want it serving with CO2!

Though my averages are very humble, my next pistol may well be a Steyr; but it will be CO2. As hwtyger says, it won't make any difference up to the highest level, and my £8 3kilo refill at home will last me forever. Why spend £200+ on a bottle and charging gear. Why have the club spend £2k to £3k on a compressor?

Those who want the latest, greatest, fine, but why knock perfectly good equipment and it's owners?

Not all CO2 target guns are rustic Russians.

The humble Tau is surprisingly good...... . (though not Russian)

[Gregory]

Your right. Im such an a hole. Next year I will be on the lookout for old soviet pistols on the start line at the mens air pistol finals. Whoops no silly me they are only shot by old bores in dusty old clubs.

As for beer I'm more of a vodka man. thats one soviet export I'm happy to recommend.

and before you kick off about how effin good they are tell me which of the major manufactorers ie fwb, ahg, walther, steyr still make them?

bam your turn boyo.