Smk 19

[kevmar]

smk 19

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/dembo/B19.jpg

Iv'e owned and shot ,
well put it this way,a lot of guns ,bla bla ,,,etc
and to be honest,(after finding an adjuster screw) under the trigger return spring (thanks for that)the trigger is better,not the best,but better.
The rifle is well made,solid,full sized,and full power ,with a capital full.
and has an adjustable breech jaw,which is a nice touch.
Iv'e been shooting string after string of 6 shot one holers at 15 yards
ok not far,but the consistency is there.
I hope to extend that at farm tommorow,and try it on the feral pigeons.
It was at first a bit dry feeling on cocking,
but that's now sorted,and it's nice and silky.
Yes I know where these are made,but as I say ,it really is worth giving one a try.
If the trigger was a tiny bit better,it would beat imho a lot of break barrel springers ,but at the price it is,it probably already does.
Kev.

[Tony2006]

Hi Kev,
I'm interestred in how you are getting on with the XS19?
I'm interested in getting this Rifle.
Any body else using any of the SMK XS super grade range?
All the Best.
Tony..

[kevmar]

Hiya Tony,
the thing is a lot of people
will have preconceived ideas of what they (far eastern) guns are like
without actually having held/used one.
I'm taking to it,the build quality is very good
and as I say,they are as powerfull as anything else
on the market (within the 12 ft1b limit) this one is certainly above 11 and a half,and very accurate,
going by the grouping.
A good gun,with no hidden rubbishy bits
solid,and the trigger is it's only achilles heel,
just a bit on the heavy side,but usable.
The breech locks up with a healthy clunk.
If you want to know where I got it,and the deal I got
for a full kit,
pm me.
Kev.

[Tony2006]

Hi Kev,
Fast reply thanks for that.
What sort of price was it? If you don't mind giving that information!
The trouble is, will I get snubbed if I turned up a a Rifle club with the XS19?
Are Chinese imported rifles really that Bad?
I read that the SMK XS Super Grade Series Rifles are Checked at the UK Factory or whatever for quality ect before being distributed. Do you know if this is true?
Why are these Daystate ect Rifles so Big? May be a Daft question but I'm only just starting out.
Thanks Kev.
Just Looking for a good cheap rifle that will get me out there and not get laughed at by these Daystate,Logon ect owners.
You see where I'm coming from?
Thank again.
Tony..

[kevmar]

Well for a start tony,there are quite a few 'British' guns
on the market,with only a pin in the breech ,
not a bolt as the smk19 has.
I chose the 19 because it has open sights,as opposed to the carbine,or smk20.
The gun shoots well,with no after twang,and if
quote
''and not get laughed at by these Daystate,Logon ect owners''
who will be laughing,if you apply yourself
and out shoot gun kits costing maybe 10 times as much ?
And a shot down a rabbits ear hole at 12ftlbs does the job
just as well as any 'Rolls Royce' gun would do.
Iv'e no time for snobbery,but i'm sure it won't be like that
most shooters iv'e met are welcoming as it's a close knit community.
You should get sorted out for about £110 gun inc nice scope ,mounts,pellets
kev.

[Davey K]

Most SMK rifles are rubbish - FACT! but the xs19 and xs20 are a considerable improvement over their cousins. Provided they are used over sensible distances, and by this I mean a maximum of 25 yards, they might have a useful role to play as cheap training/short range hunting rifles. Unlike the B2 and B4 variants, the xs19 and xs20's are safe - everything screws in securely and bits don't fall off when you fire them!! But, and it is a big but, I cant really see any reason to buy them when you look at the second hand alternative that is available for your £120.

If you buy a second hand rifle from the BBS, it's likely to have been well oiled and cared for, particularly if you buy from established members with a good reputation. Your £120 will buy you a rifle and scope combo that will MASSIVELY out perform any SMK rifle - you can pick up a HW95 or BSA Lightning or any other of a number of superior makes. These are serious rifles that are equally at home hunting out to 35/40 yards and targets beyond that. I recently purchased a HW97K on here for £150 posted and placed against the SMK XS20 that I own (and cost me £120 with scope) the 97K DESTROYS the SMK.

Do yourself a favour, if you love shooting air rifles you'll leave Chinese guns behind in time - spend your money wisely now and you won't regret that £120you spent on a second rate springer because the £120 will have gone most of the way toward paying for a quality British or German rifle that will last a lifetime.

[ratgunner]

Hi Kev,
Fast reply thanks for that.
What sort of price was it? If you don't mind giving that information!
The trouble is, will I get snubbed if I turned up a a Rifle club with the XS19?
Are Chinese imported rifles really that Bad?
I read that the SMK XS Super Grade Series Rifles are Checked at the UK Factory or whatever for quality ect before being distributed. Do you know if this is true?
Why are these Daystate ect Rifles so Big? May be a Daft question but I'm only just starting out.
Thanks Kev.
Just Looking for a good cheap rifle that will get me out there and not get laughed at by these Daystate,Logon ect owners.
You see where I'm coming from?
Thank again.
Tony..

I bought a Chinese Rifle after losing it with 3 faulty pistols in a row and paid £70 for it, (around £100 now)
it is a QB78 Deluxe .22 (No Less) it takes 2x12gram Co2 cartridges the butt is Chinese Beech, sights are truglo, bolt action (snazzy gold bolt) instructions in Serbo Croat,
It has a good single stage trigger, and initially chucked pellets everywhere??

using much gun oil a rod and plastic brush removed shedloads of black muck from barrel,
shoots brilliantly, it likes JSB Exacts, I have done comps with it, scoring 38 out of 60 all standing shots (Dodgy Legs) as for snobs? shoot well and why worry,

ATB, Bernard.

[pistolpete1]

Yesterday I had a ride to Manchester Airguns, I phoned earlier to ask if they had any junior rifles, after having an SMK 20 I was a bit dubious when the guy raved about the SMK 15. All I can say is I'm a convert to the NEW range that is being imported, no more Rough Sharp edges, Bad wood,or sub standard Bolts pins etc,They seem to have taken notice of the importers and now produce good standard Rifles. The Price for the SMK 15 £45 Bargain
does it shoot well in a word Yes, It can hit the 25mm on my Knockover 9/10.Straight from the box, Needs another session to get rid of the excess oil. but so far its a winner.

[4end]

Hiya Tony,
[]the thing is a lot of people
will have preconceived ideas of what they (far eastern) guns are like
without actually having held/used one[/U].
I'm taking to it,the build quality is very good
and as I say,they are as powerfull as anything else
on the market (within the 12 ft1b limit) this one is certainly above 11 and a half,and very accurate,
going by the grouping.
A good gun,with no hidden rubbishy bits
solid,and the trigger is it's only achilles heel,
just a bit on the heavy side,but usable.
The breech locks up with a healthy clunk.
If you want to know where I got it,and the deal I got
for a full kit,
pm me.
Kev.

You are quite correct about comments from shooters who have no experience of the gun or guns in question. Usually the worthless comments are about Chinese guns with Spanish stuff running a close second. There are various Chinese and Spanish models that can be fettled without breaking the bank into something that will match any British or German gun in performance. You will note I said performance only, both types of gun do not have the same build quality as their competitors, however, that is changing especially with the Chinese models. I have worked on the SMKXs38 and various Gamo underlevers and was more than suprised at their performance on the range. It's just a matter of time until the Chinese produce a gun that will equal or exceed our better models at an affordable price.

[mancmarksman]

hiya..just looking for a bit of help as the SMK 19 is my first gun.
wat is the difference between the smk 19 and the smk xs19??? and also with the .177 wat sort of fps does it do?? and what sort of groupings should i be getting at 25 yards? great gun at a great price i dont care where its made.

Thanks sam

[uk litehammer]

Hi, there is no difference, the XS19 is on english ones, in the states it is the B19. I don't know about the fps, but you should get about 10.5-11ft/lbs power. They are very accurate in the right hands, and if you change the trigger for a GRTIII trigger from CharlieDaTuna (easy to do) it will feel like a totally better gun. I also suggest you look at the uk chinese owners site. I'll find you a couple of links in a moment.

http://ukchineseairgunforum.myfreeforum.org/

http://charliedatuna.com/GRT-III%20T...htm#grtiiiguns

[Nickpan]

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[Mog]

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[steveiep]

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[mancmarksman]

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