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    Quote Originally Posted by steveiep View Post
    In just the same way we love your spelling.
    That's GRAMMAR. LOL
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    no such words as alot or ect, and do you really want to add a second 'o' in 'lose', unless you're talking about something that isn't very tight?

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    i had the smk 20 when it first came out.- had the despute over the silencer. In the picture it had a silencer/barrel weight but when delivered it didn't. well the first one was sent back after 2 weeks as it wouldn't group.. 20 pellets in a sheet of a4 paper at 20 yards. all over it. so it was returned and i was told the scope groves hadn't been cut correctly.!!

    so a new one was sent out and after 2 weeks the same issue. i put up with this for a bit, striped it down and polished it all up and shimmed the barrel. it was better but in the end i throw it in the bin. literally. for the money your better getting a 95k. which is what its based on. chineses copy pooh
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    Quote Originally Posted by g60bv View Post
    well the first one was sent back after 2 weeks as it wouldn't group.. 20 pellets in a sheet of a4 paper at 20 yards. all over it. so it was returned and i was told the scope groves hadn't been cut correctly.
    I think they were just being kind
    Mine groups well at 20 yards and only starts to lose it at 40+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g60bv View Post
    for the money your better getting a 95k.
    if people had the money that is what they would buy in the first place...
    Seriously, they are a much improved range, and i was well happy with the recent run in with an smk19, nice smooth rifle, and for £100, cant complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g60bv View Post
    i had the smk 20 when it first came out.- had the despute over the silencer. In the picture it had a silencer/barrel weight but when delivered it didn't. well the first one was sent back after 2 weeks as it wouldn't group.. 20 pellets in a sheet of a4 paper at 20 yards. all over it. so it was returned and i was told the scope groves hadn't been cut correctly.!!

    so a new one was sent out and after 2 weeks the same issue. i put up with this for a bit, striped it down and polished it all up and shimmed the barrel. it was better but in the end i throw it in the bin. literally. for the money your better getting a 95k. which is what its based on. chineses copy pooh
    You are not the first person i have heard having had trouble. It seems to me that you either get a good one or a badun and there is no quality control even on these shores as claimed in the advert. The XS20 is quite good when a good one is found and for the money can't go wrong again if a goodun,Still not as good as the HW80 though

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    Quote Originally Posted by clanger View Post
    The XS20 is quite good when a good one is found and for the money can't go wrong again if a goodun,Still not as good as the HW80 though Kev
    That's because it's like a 95.

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    Seriously, and without bias, I wouldn't have one given. I once had one given, so I know what I'm talking about. I spent many a hour trying to get it something like. Waste of time. I gave it back. I don't give anything away that is of the remotest bit of use or value. What does that tell you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FORTUITOUS KENNETH View Post
    so I know what I'm talking about.
    and then again others have had no problems at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by FORTUITOUS KENNETH View Post
    Seriously, and without bias, I wouldn't have one given. I once had one given, so I know what I'm talking about. I spent many a hour trying to get it something like. Waste of time. I gave it back. I don't give anything away that is of the remotest bit of use or value. What does that tell you?
    It tells me you don't know how to tune a Chinese rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevmar View Post
    smk 19

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/dembo/B19.jpg

    Iv'e owned and shot ,
    well put it this way,a lot of guns ,bla bla ,,,etc
    and to be honest,(after finding an adjuster screw) under the trigger return spring (thanks for that)the trigger is better,not the best,but better.
    The rifle is well made,solid,full sized,and full power ,with a capital full.
    and has an adjustable breech jaw,which is a nice touch.
    Iv'e been shooting string after string of 6 shot one holers at 15 yards
    ok not far,but the consistency is there.
    I hope to extend that at farm tommorow,and try it on the feral pigeons.
    It was at first a bit dry feeling on cocking,
    but that's now sorted,and it's nice and silky.
    Yes I know where these are made,but as I say ,it really is worth giving one a try.
    If the trigger was a tiny bit better,it would beat imho a lot of break barrel springers ,but at the price it is,it probably already does.
    Kev.
    Never heard of a gun called bla bla,,,etc!!!
    Seriously though I had one of these good gun just let down by trigger otherwise well made and good value. Even better If you do trigger and give the internals a good polish up. Plenty of info on improving these guns on on Uk Chinese airgun forum

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    I'm always astonished that folks associate brand with effective accuracy at a certain distance.

    Last time I looked, provided the gun is functioning correctly and decent pellets are available, that is down to the shooter...

    I currently own a Logun PCP, Weihrauch springers x7, Hatsan (PCP and springer), BSA (several), etc, etc,. and one of two SMK XS19's that I bought last year.

    I tuned both and fitted a Welsh Willy kit and trigger to one, and I can print 5p size groups at 30 metres kneeling or sitting. Can't do that standing but that's because I'm rubbish at standing shots. Note, I am rubbish at standing shots - given that the gun can regularly print 5p groups at that range in may ham fisted mits, a better shot could be reasonably expected to tighten that group up still further or extend the same group out to a greater distance.

    My XS19 has become my favourite garden gun for pigeons, rabbits and the odd rat that tries its luck, and it's a brilliant tool for this purpose.

    Is it as well engineered as more expensive guns ?

    No.

    Do I feel that I wasted my money on it ?

    Definitely not.

    Could I have bought into it and stopped there without ever having to jump ship to a different manufacturer ?

    Of course, but that's where want and need come into play, and what we want is rarely only what we need.

    I think the SMK XS19 offers an awful lot, being light, easy to cock and load, easy to shoot (especially with the Welsh Willy trigger upgrade which really does transform the gun) and it has accuracy to spare at whatever range you can effectively use the gun at.

    Despite lots of alternatives, I reach for it regularly and thoroughly enjoy owning and shooting it.

    I can't print noticeably better groups with my Weihrauch springers than with the SMK, but that's because I am the limiting factor, not the kit.

    Folks ought to remember that instead of continuously perpetuating the somewhat ridiculous myth that brand X is, by definition, incapable.

    I'll get my coat...

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