Founder & ex secretary of Rivington Riflemen.
www.rivington-riflemen.uk
If you look at the very early Venom ads when they still worked out of Trapshot of Lye they claimed up to 14.5ftlbs dependant on calibre for the 35. I have never seen one do anything like this, 10.5 to 12ftlb yes but a further 2.5ftlbs must have been achieved by lengthening the piston stroke, of course going this far you may as well get an 80. I think thats good advice to smooth them out and be happy with the end result.
I've just bought what will be my third 35 off here and can't wait for it to arrive.
Last edited by coburn; 23-01-2009 at 03:02 PM.
Time methinks to trot out a pic of my mid-1950s pre-Rekord trigger HW35 to remind readers what a long and illustrious career this particular model has had. This gun handles really nicely and the early trigger is suprisingly sophisticated, feeling quite similar to the Rekord. The .177 barrel is 22 inches long, same as the model that later became known as the Export. I think all the very first HW35s had the long barrels.
Shown here with a rare bottom wheel diopter, the second pattern of HW diopter. The wheel locks the windage adjustment.
Early HW35
a lovely early ( two hole ) HW 35 in target sports today in REALLY good nick for £150
Hi coburn
I think you'll find that when Venom first advertised the HW35 in FAC format there was no HW80 to play with.
The HW35 will easily produce 15 ftlbs with an increased stroke and does so with great accuracy.
Like I posted earlier I have now reduced the stroke on my 35 by 10mm to keep it below 12 ftlbs.
All the best Mick
Yes T20 I remember reading in AGW an article on Venom that Pope and Handcock met tru an airgun club and both had been tuning 35's, pooled their resources and formed Venom.
Out of interest what are the diffences in stroke between a 35 and 80.
The HW35 with leather washer had a 65mm stroke.
The maximum available stroke length in a standard HW35 is 71mm
The HW80 had a stroke of 83mm.
Some of the early 80's imported were found to be producing 16to17ftlb's as standard.
Looking at those figures it's just occured to me that you get about 1 ftlb for every 5mm of stroke.
The HW80 was mainly intended for the American market were there are no restrictions on power. The HW80 came about due to the collaberation between Dr Robert Beeman and Weihrauch, as did the HW45 pistol.
The earliest reference to Hancock and Pope that I have is a photograph of them from an old Airgunworld, out on a shooting trip with Jim Tyler (BTDT).
All the best Mick
Founder & ex secretary of Rivington Riflemen.
www.rivington-riflemen.uk
Hi Ian
The thought of trying to hunt down Jim Tyler has conjured up memories in my head of when the Goodies tried to capture Rolf Harris.
Of course it would be highly unsporting to try stalk Jim now as like many of us old boys in the collectable section the smell of Ralgex and the slight wiff of stale waz would give his position away.
Glad you liked the stroke length info.
It may be that the stroke length of the nylon headed piston in the HW35 is shorter than the Leather sealed one.
Now all I have to work out is why the HW77 with a lower swept volume than the HW35 is capable of 18 ftlbs.
All the best Mick