MTC Viper 4x16x50

[Amac]

Picked up my scope from BAR the other day.

First impressions when opening the box were the amount of extras that was also contained within it! These included a decent set of 30 mil mounts, a sunshade, large parallax wheel, battery for the IR, decent instructions and a set of allen keys.

Optics are frankly amazingly good for a scope within this price range, and it comes as no surprise that the manufacturer produces optical components for more well known Japanese manufacturers. All of the scopes moving parts operate smoothly with just the right amount of resistance to the touch. Finished in matt black and with the unique "posi click"and "knock safe" target turrets, I look forward to using the optic in the field and to gazing at the scopes party piece, the specially designed reticle. Like many of us who have had in the past had to put up with mill dots the size of a small lemon, this particular picture is refreshingly well designed in my opinion. It is made up of "christmas tree" type graduations at the bottom of the sight picture that I think will be genuinely useful for target bracketing purposes rather than for windage. The actual centre is a "floating" cross that can of course be illuminated to a varying degree as is currently the norm. The difference with this is that the central cross remains fully floating which will allow the target to be observed to a higher degree than is possible normally, again in my opinion. In addition, the small graduational lines represent mill dots @ 10 mag which are fully described within the included manual. The reticle alone was majorly responsible for my buying decision and I am not dissapointed !
Over the decades I have owned many scopes. Ok, I have never had the money to buy a Zeis or a Schmidt, but have possessed numerous"mid range" none super scopes as I suspect have a large proportion of shooters on an only average income!
The Viper represents for me a high quality scope that is even attainable for an average bloke currently on his arse financially as I currently am. However, I have not regreted this purchase and consider it as one of my wisest buys. It most deffinately wont be going the way of its forebearers and end up in part-ex alley. This one is a keeper!
If you are in the market for a high quality none ridiculously priced scope, take a close look at the MTC range. I guarantee that you will be impressed (and no,I dont know Gary Cooper!)
Andy

[HW95chris]

I got one exact same just before christmas, i have to agree they are excellent scopes. really clear/crisp picture. Extra sunshade useless on breakbarrels though

[Ettie ket]

i purchased mine second hand without the side wheel, objective cover, spacer and sushade missing, phoned mtc and the spares were only £18.00 posted plus the scope is good quality. thumbs up for me

[jfkenpoman]

I totally agree, I have had 3 of these excellent scopes and am looking for another, they are brilliant, very clear and represent excellent value for money

[Pepperdog]

Hi,
I have two of these scopes both purchased around three to four years ago. I agree optics where very good for the money when new, both mine have now got lots of fine black spots on inside of glass.

My impression of these is reasonable price and good glass(when new) unfortunately don't seem to last. I have had 100% failure rate in my experience's with the Viper's, compared to a 5-15 x 40 Bushnell Legend I purchased around the same time(second hand) this is as good as new.

I did find the Vipers a very nice scope to use on airguns the reticle one of the most useful, unfortunately I expected a longer service life. Maybe I have been very unlucky with mine but would not purchase another.

Martin

[Gary C]

Hi,
I have two of these scopes both purchased around three to four years ago. I agree optics where very good for the money when new, both mine have now got lots of fine black spots on inside of glass.

My impression of these is reasonable price and good glass(when new) unfortunately don't seem to last. I have had 100% failure rate in my experience's with the Viper's, compared to a 5-15 x 40 Bushnell Legend I purchased around the same time(second hand) this is as good as new.

I did find the Vipers a very nice scope to use on airguns the reticle one of the most useful, unfortunately I expected a longer service life. Maybe I have been very unlucky with mine but would not purchase another.

Martin

So what happened when you phoned MTC, did they repair the scopes, give you new ones ?

I'm guessing they told you to go and do one as you have been left with unworkable scopes? Very bad business

[rickysdaystate]

Hi,
I have two of these scopes both purchased around three to four years ago. I agree optics where very good for the money when new, both mine have now got lots of fine black spots on inside of glass.

My impression of these is reasonable price and good glass(when new) unfortunately don't seem to last. I have had 100% failure rate in my experience's with the Viper's, compared to a 5-15 x 40 Bushnell Legend I purchased around the same time(second hand) this is as good as new.

I did find the Vipers a very nice scope to use on airguns the reticle one of the most useful, unfortunately I expected a longer service life. Maybe I have been very unlucky with mine but would not purchase another.

Martin

i had mine when they 1st came out, i too have found that black spots are on the glass, which makes the image a little crappy, however i still highly rate them

[sargon103]

Picked up my scope from BAR the other day.

First impressions when opening the box were the amount of extras that was also contained within it! These included a decent set of 30 mil mounts, a sunshade, large parallax wheel, battery for the IR, decent instructions and a set of allen keys.

Optics are frankly amazingly good for a scope within this price range, and it comes as no surprise that the manufacturer produces optical components for more well known Japanese manufacturers. All of the scopes moving parts operate smoothly with just the right amount of resistance to the touch. Finished in matt black and with the unique "posi click"and "knock safe" target turrets, I look forward to using the optic in the field and to gazing at the scopes party piece, the specially designed reticle. Like many of us who have had in the past had to put up with mill dots the size of a small lemon, this particular picture is refreshingly well designed in my opinion. It is made up of "christmas tree" type graduations at the bottom of the sight picture that I think will be genuinely useful for target bracketing purposes rather than for windage. The actual centre is a "floating" cross that can of course be illuminated to a varying degree as is currently the norm. The difference with this is that the central cross remains fully floating which will allow the target to be observed to a higher degree than is possible normally, again in my opinion. In addition, the small graduational lines represent mill dots @ 10 mag which are fully described within the included manual. The reticle alone was majorly responsible for my buying decision and I am not dissapointed !
Over the decades I have owned many scopes. Ok, I have never had the money to buy a Zeis or a Schmidt, but have possessed numerous"mid range" none super scopes as I suspect have a large proportion of shooters on an only average income!
The Viper represents for me a high quality scope that is even attainable for an average bloke currently on his arse financially as I currently am. However, I have not regreted this purchase and consider it as one of my wisest buys. It most deffinately wont be going the way of its forebearers and end up in part-ex alley. This one is a keeper!
If you are in the market for a high quality none ridiculously priced scope, take a close look at the MTC range. I guarantee that you will be impressed (and no,I dont know Gary Cooper!)
Andy

i have one of these and it is a great scope range finder make life so easy

[Ripper]

It was interesting to read Gary's comment that the Viper is not that good for range finding. If I had a criticism about this scope it would have been that. I have therefore just purchased a Taipan which I assume will be much better. It has one of the new reticules so I'm going to have to work out what's what when we next get a calm evening - but that's the fun of having a new scope isn't it?

The Viper may go on rifle no 2 but my torch can't "see" over the objective lens unless I get someone to build me a taller clamp.

The Taipan is my third MTC scope, I had a Mamba before hand. For the money I really rate them and on every occasion I have had to make use of customer service I have had exemplary service.

I seem to remember that there was a lifetime warranty if you are the first owner. Was that my mistake or does it still apply?

[Gary C]

Warranty is 5 years. However, if you have kept the scope as the first owner for more than 5 years we're not going to see you short

[ev2mk4]

are these mtc vipers anygood chaps for ft/hft

[Gary C]

If you want to do HFT you need a small objective and max x10 mag. MTC do a 10x44

If you want to do FT you need a large objective and high mag - x32 minimum

2 different scopes.

IIRC Bushnell do a 4200 Elite 8-32x44, which may work for both

[bullet boy]

Brilliant value for money scopes.

[Amac]

Following my initial review, and having used the Viper for a few months now, I can only confirm my initial comments that I made a wise decision in purchasing it.

Like thousands of other keen shooters, I have used the scope both for field work and HFT competition and still feel impressed every time I look through its first class lenses. Having checked out the competition, and for that matter scopes costing three or four times the initial outlay of the Viper, I still reckon that it must be one of the best all-round scopes that is currently available, certainly within its price range and probably significantly more.

Thats only comments concerning the scope. What you also get is a first class service from a company that genuinely looks after its customers, allowing the strong user base to remain loyal to its products as new models are introduced. Bottom line, in my opinion, is first class optics for sensible money.

I have yet to check out the "Taipan" myself. However, even though I have yet to glance through its lenses, I know that it will be another quality product and as such I am in the process of saving up for one. In saying that, I also quite fancy a "Mamba".

Why pay more for less?

Good shooting folks,

Andy

[Wryka]

I'm having trouble with 'white out' with my 6x24-56 Viper at lower light levels. I've tried moving my head around and cupping the viewing lense to reduce light coming in from behind and even standing in a darker room to reduce light levels further. But I still find the the 'sweet spot' for viewing is so small that you are concentrating more on keeping your head still and being tense that the shot do you make is not relaxed and ends up being missed.
Does anybody else have this problem and have a solution for this or should the scope be looked at to see if there's a problem with it ? I have two other MTC's a Mamba 4x16-50 and another Viper 4x12-44 both of which I have no problems with.

I'm looking to put another scope on a BSA Ultra for HFT any suggestions ?

Wryka