cz trigger breaker
Not been to the range yet.
Can't use the farm as they are ploughing - seeding ect.
I have been trying different positions while short range plinking.
The rifle sure does jump about compared to a PCP.
If I use it rested (not held) I can't see the pellet strike therefore I'll have no idea of aim points at any sort of distance.
I really do need to try it first at the range, the bank will make it so much easier to spot where the pellet is landing.
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when you said you shot off your open hand, there is an alternative try shooting off the top of your fist, rest your fist on the table/bench etc and rest the rifle on top , you can use your thumb for lateral support and often a glove is beneficial!
by doing this you reduce considerably the muzzle flip caused by the rifle bouncing off any solid rest, you must also ensure the butt or bottom of the pistol grip is not in contact with anything!
we have an L shaped shooting bench at our range so that your right elbow is supported too, using this bench and shooting off the top of my fist I can get a sub 30mm five shot group with my HW98 at 102yds , provided that is the wind cooperates!
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The fist idea sounds good, I've done similar with the rimmy & PCP's.
The open palm (hand) was done sitting, just rested it on my open palm to see what would happen, boing.
Decided to definately take it to my local range.
In a few minutes I'll be able to see how much the pellet drops just shooting towards the bank backstop & watching the dirt kick up to give me a starter.
From finding out the aim point first I can get it over the farm & target shoot to see what happens.
Just hope it doesn't drop below my view at the the bottom of the scope sight picture.
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I have more experience with rimfire than airgun but I have a hw100 .22 and find this story of this guy hitting a can freestanding at 100 yards a bit far fetched
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not far fetched, have hit pellet tins at 100yds standing with a springer, ok it took a few shots and is totally wind dependant but it's certainly doable!
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Hears a video to back your claim, shooting balloons with a springer at 100ydsOriginally Posted by Artfull-Bodger
http://www.pyramydair.com/p/air-arms...ir-rifle.shtml
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Just watched the video Barry, cheers for the link.
I'm not doubting the guys ability to shoot and it was entertaining, but how typical of the yanks.
Stand in field, tie balloons at head height between two trees and fire blindly into woods!!!!!!!!!!!. No wonder they have so many shooting accidents.
DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
They don't mention pellet weight, but from the muzzle velocities quoted on the site (.177 930ft/sec and .22 755ft/sec) that looks well into FAC territory to me.
Good to see the Yanks are loving and buying our air rifles.
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My hw100 is fitted with a hawke sidwinder 30 scope with sr12 sight and a buthook and they help quite a lot. My scope is mounted as low as it can be and at x10 mag I still have a good view of anything at 100 yards. If you go to the hawke website and take a look at the sr12 sight you will see the mill dot lines and under that are lines that mark windage. For my setup if you look at where the letter D is marked on the sr12 sight at that level is pretty much where the pellet will drop at 100 yards (scope zeroed at 30 yards). So I have a point of aim right there. If the wind is in my favour with that point of aim I cant see how it differs much from hitting someing at my zero at 30 yards. I just aim up to level with that D and thats it. Ive only been shooting a few months and have gained a lot of practice by hitting this bell we have hainging from at tree at 55 yards free standing. I dont hit it every time but enough to make me feel confident with my hw100.
The other guy at our club mentioned hit 100 yards with his springer a few times in a row freestanding if I remember rightly and thats something I would need a lot of practice to do myself. Its all a matter of the right kit and practice if you think "oh its 100 yard I'll never hit that" then you probably won't.
On the flip side when I have a go at our HFT range im lucky to score more than 20. So I'm no expert at shooting by any means. I do plan to buy a something more suited to HFT for next year so well see how that goes then.
I see your from Guernsey the SDFTC club is between Dorchester and Weymouth so if your ever on the mainland and got the sunday free pop on up.
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Hi Bowie, get on the ferry, I'll pick you up at Weymouth and take you up the club.
We shoot Sundays so why not make a weekend of it. You are genuinly welcome to join us in order to dispel any doubt.
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Id never shoot again if I had to use a springer.
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Yes been looking around online and loads of people seem to be doing it, sorry if I came across a bit rude. If I'm heading to the mainland I usually go Southampton way as I just moved from that area to here. If I get a chance I'll sail over to Weymouth my new venture is going to keep me very busy so might not be for while yet. All the best with your shooting.
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No worries, if you get across this way give us a shout, your welcome to come and shoot with us for a day.
Wind is supposed to be 33mph this weekend. I don't think any club records are going to be set
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My god I used to love my springer after reading this I will dig it back out and have some fun, 26ft hold over
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yes you need loads of holdover,the aim points on my scope run out at 130 yards thats an sr6 reticule on 3 times mag,if you set the zero to a longer range then i would probably get a longer range with the aim points,i set my zero at 25 yards because thats how long my garden is and i always check zero before i go out hunting,
when we were (unsuccessfully) attempting the 200 yard cubleycat special we used the "see where the puffs of dirt are"method and have to say are many shots started to get it around the cah regularly until boredom set in ,trouble we had was that we were shooting uphill by quite a bit and i know that the pellet will fly higher going up sure if we were shooting the other way and going downhill we would need less holdover,however if we shot downhill the field is lush green turf and would,nt have a clue where the pellets were hitting,
it is truly good fun trying to hit tin cans at silly ranges ,the important thing to realise tho is that a tin can is one thing and living things are another kettle of fish and be disciplined enough to keep your range sensible, Ian
hw100t/mtc viper 4-16x50,,hw100k/nv scope,,hw97k/3-12x44sr6,,hw99s all .177
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cz trigger breaker
Changed the scope for a Leapers mildot one fitted with some Sportsmatch elevation adjustable mounts.
Shooting at 115yds (length of the range) the scope took ages to adjust, responded really slowly.
Eventually I run out of adjustment.
Bad news is the mildot scope isn't fully mildot, only the middle part with the outer cross hairs being thick posts.
All I could see was the pellets strikes are about half way up the bottom post.
Back to the drawing board.
Looks like 100yds could be a bit of fun & looking forward to it but without a better aim point system I'm scuppered for the moment.
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