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    I have been following this post with interest chaps. Does the "Connect" really behave very differently from anything currently available? I must admit to being intrigued by this new introduction into the already excellent MTC stable. I may even nip up to see Lloyd at BAR to check one out for myself. It certainly sounds different to anything else knocking about at present and worthy of serious consideration. Didnt Sportsmatch say that they would produce some bespoke mounts for this scope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amac View Post
    I have been following this post with interest chaps. Does the "Connect" really behave very differently from anything currently available? I must admit to being intrigued by this new introduction into the already excellent MTC stable. I may even nip up to see Lloyd at BAR to check one out for myself. It certainly sounds different to anything else knocking about at present and worthy of serious consideration. Didnt Sportsmatch say that they would produce some bespoke mounts for this scope?

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    Hi Andy,

    From my point of view, yes, it is.

    If you like the MTC scopes, then this wont disappoint.

    I think the thing is that yes, you may well say that a 6-24x56 in whatever flavour is maybee better for long range shooting, and a 4x24 may seem better for squirrelling or ratting, but in the connect, you have all the advantages of the above (albeit 12x mag) in one scope.

    As I understand it sports match have been making a mount, but a good quality pair for single mounts fitted together will do as good a job, although I am not sure where that leaves you as regards scope mounted lamps as the sports match unit does take this into account.

    The only real issue re mounting is getting used to the eye position.

    Now, back in the day of the original connect 01, this had some real bearing. It was quite high and really needed an ajustable cheek piece, and the eye relief was quite uncompromising.

    The little (and it is small...but chunky, it is the patterdale of scopes, compact and tough) Viper connect really only shares the low light, fast aquisition, and wide FOV with the original, and none of the disadvantages.

    They eye relief is as you like it within reason.

    Gary and Sammy have been very clever in fitting an extendable, rubber coated eyepiece (often seen on modern bins) that extends, but is locked in place as it is on a cam, so it rotates to extend and retract.

    To this you can add, if you wish, and optional bellows eyepiece.

    The thing is, with the tube wound in, the scope works more or less conventionally, you could shoot a springer happilly with it, and as I said earlier, Baz has used .223, but I think he warned against glasses wearers trying this.

    Wind the tube out and it rests on your brow, and this really helps stabilise the rifle in any position.

    As Phil says, if you use NV it will feel pretty normal, but even if you dont, you will soon get used to it.

    Of interest to me is that there was some mention of a possible front end NV add on later down the line, which if it works out will be the dogs as you really will them have a 1 scope does all.

    The thing is that it will do the job of a much larger, heavier scope very well, while being potentially much lower in the mounts (depending on the rifle...but even then it's objective is only 32mm) and lighter, so it does not affect the handling in the way a large scope can make a bipod or rest more or a necessity for some.

    It is a bloody good squirrelling scope too. I use a Connect 01 for several seasons, and have used the new one (prototype) for several runs out and it is significantly better than what was already pretty handy.

    Side (very close minimum) focus, easy zoom, AMD ret (the dogs) one touch retina friendly () IR...ideal.

    It may be marmite, but not in anyway as much as the old 01 used to be.

    I think most would be able to shoot well with it, even if they did'nt like it mucth.
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    Thanks Para! You have just persuaded me to try one so its off to Blackpool for me tomorrow. I will fit the scope to my Airwolf and let you know what I think when I have had a chance to use it and hopefully get used to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amac View Post
    Thanks Para! You have just persuaded me to try one so its off to Blackpool for me tomorrow. I will fit the scope to my Airwolf and let you know what I think when I have had a chance to use it and hopefully get used to it.
    Cheers,
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    I have one on my AirWolf and it suits it very well, but you will need high mounts if you use magazine as the objective sits right over mag.

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    My Connect seems to be 'true mildot' at 11x mag., anyone else with a Connect noticed this?
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    My Connect seems to be 'true mildot' at 11x mag., anyone else with a Connect noticed this?"


    yes, seems to be slightly out. mine is true on 10.5 on our mildot checker. no big deal really as long as you know its out and where its true.

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    Ah... I was trying to work out why that chap (Hardman?) in one of the magazines had the scope set so far back on the rifle. I think this thread clears it up, seems a bit weird and uncomfortable though

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenJH View Post
    Ah... I was trying to work out why that chap (Hardman?) in one of the magazines had the scope set so far back on the rifle. I think this thread clears it up, seems a bit weird and uncomfortable though
    It appears so, but it actually works very well.

    You are only just over the water, pop over and have a look if you like sometime.

    The only issues are that it may need higher mounts to clear a mag, but is not much worse than having a large objective conventional scope.

    The likes of the HW100 can have the scope fitted very low if required as there is no mag to get in the way.

    That said, Phil seems to get on fine with his on a Wolf, and my production unit will be going on a BTAS410k, which is not far off as regards the mag sticking up.

    I should imagine that as both Sammie and Gary Cooper shoot airwolves, that the Viper Connect has been well and truly thrashed on a wolf....but I may be wrong
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    Thanks for the offer I have been looking at the mamba lite though and I'm inclined towards that... though my budget is more Cobra these days

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenJH View Post
    Ah... I was trying to work out why that chap (Hardman?) in one of the magazines had the scope set so far back on the rifle. I think this thread clears it up, seems a bit weird and uncomfortable though
    I have two MTC scopes, a Taipan 4-16x50 and the Connect, whilst the Taipan is IMO opticaly the better scope, the Connect works much better on an AirWolf, the light weight coupled with being mounted so far back gives a well balenced rifle such that it makes unsupported shots much easier, also the wide FOV means I leave it on 10x and can see as much as a conventional scope on 6x. The one thing I don't like is the small fiddly (compared to Taipan) side wheel, scope is off the rifle for a few weeks while I play with a NV setup so I hope to m/c a lever to fit the side wheel.

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    Went to BAR today and had a look at a Connect. Problem was my ageing eyesight is such that I couldnt make out the fine ret fast enough despite adjusting ocular lens. Bugger. If I could have done I would have had it. Another negative aspect of the deteriorating eyes. B-----d!
    Ended up buying a Lightstream for the Air Wolf. I am still able to make this ret out after a bit of occular juggling, but would have genuinely liked to have tried out such an innovative product.
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    Almost finnished the lever, as a lefty I've got to cut it down to clear bolt, but thought I'd post photo's for you righty's. As it is it transforms the focusing of scope, esp for lefty as I can adjust focus with just a small movement of thumb from firing pos'n.

    Focus at approx 20yds.
    http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/u...nnect20yrd.jpg

    Focus at approx 50yds.
    http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/u...nnect50yds.jpg

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