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    Quote Originally Posted by monty57 View Post
    HI, All sounds good welcome aboard. as well as good advice as to where to buy and what to buy theres loads of other stuff you learn too, like the back stop ends where your garden ends as any round or shot should remain on the land you have permission if the pellets are going to go onto the farmers field i believe you need permision or you are breaking the law. i'm sure if you inform the farmer what you are doing he will be fine with it as they don't want magpies every where either. best be safe and sure there so many people willing to report shooting these days.
    Good luck and shoot safe Monty57
    Not wishing to be rude monty but if you hold a 22-250 and a .243 you should KNOW not BELIEVE what the law is relating to a projectile leaving land for which you have permission to shoot on.

    And to answer your mod question - it might be possible to get a delrin buffer made for the rifles. If you speak to wildcat, they might send you a screw in component that will allow you to acheive this. or you could perhaps get one made.

    Also better to start your own thread rather than piggy back off anothers thread and therefore distract from the original OP's quest for enlightenment.

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    Hello Will .

    And welcome to the forum mate .

    All the best .

    Andy .
    " Never mistake kindness for weakness "

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    Otmoors, just South of Banbury in Deddington.

    A proper airgun shop which I've used in the past. Prices look sensible.

    Worth asking a few questions here on the forum before going shopping IMO.

    Happy shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steyr View Post
    .22 is not better than .177 in lethality and the loopy traj of the .22 gives it a range disadvantage over the .177. you hit the spot - it will drop.

    I would join a club and get some training and advice personally
    I'm a little confused. I'm sure this is a topic well debated before, but I'm new here so are the differences 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen of the other?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr who? View Post
    Hello Will .

    And welcome to the forum mate .

    All the best .

    Andy .
    Thank you.

    Quote Originally Posted by 18 Wheeler View Post
    Otmoors, just South of Banbury in Deddington.

    A proper airgun shop which I've used in the past. Prices look sensible.

    Worth asking a few questions here on the forum before going shopping IMO.

    Happy shooting.
    Thanks for the recommendation. Much appreciated.

    Like you say - it's nice to gain some basic knowledge here first, before walking in to a shop and being talked in to buying the wrong equipment.

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    .22 is oft used as the calibre of choice as the pellets tend to be heavier and there is a belif that it hits harder.

    I do not subscribe to that otherwise we would all be shooting .25.

    The reason we dont is the traj of a .25 is so great you NEED to know the range to quarry or you will miss or wound.

    .22 is oft punted by gun shops as the hunting calibre. This is bollocks of the highest order.

    It is efective but it still carries the curved traj so if you cant read range then at close and extrem ranges of your ability, the degree of missing or wounding becomes geater.

    There are fans of the .20...its often described as the compromise calibre but to be honest it has never really caught shooters imagination, you hardly see them and as a reuslt the pellets on offer are much more reduced than the .22 and the .177 calibres.

    .177 is flatter shooting and it WILL drop very effectively like ALL the other calibres so long as you know your gun, your pellet, your ranges and you put in the practice.

    However, the .177 pellet does fly flatter and gets their quicker.

    You then get into the argument of wind effect and I dont mean a vindaloo.

    To me this is a false argument. In the same way it is your duty to get to be able to get the range right (either by eye/brain or laser - I dont care so long as you do it) then you also need to know what the wind conditions are like and how it will affect your pellets point of impact.

    It is a personal choice and I would probably argue that for a pcp rifle, then .177 offers more accuracy potential then a .22 unless you have immaculate range finding ability.

    In a spring gun, I would probably something bigger like a .22 may be better to help the recoil issues especially with cheaper untuned rifles which I suspect is maybe where you are heading.

    But then I really hate spring guns but that is just my personal stance

    If you want to take the argument even further, then many will say that you need to go for a heavier pellets. Again. I buck the trend and shoot 7.9's and they seem to drop just as hard or harder than 8.9's.....

    you have to find your way
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    Thank you, that was a very interesting read. It all sounds quite technical to me.

    If it's of relevance, my garden is only 15-20m long and has tall hedging either side, open end on to land - so I suspect/hope the cross wind would be minimised.

    I may get in to shooting as a hobby, but initially it's only to control pests. So whilst I want to do things properly I don't want to take it too seriously and ultimately want to make a purchasing decision sooner rather than later

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    Purely for pest control at the ranges you mention, either calibre will do the job.

    £200 is quite tight for decent new equipment.

    HW99s is about the best quality, reasonably priced spring gun IMO. Around £210.

    JSRamsbottom (who sponsor/pay for the running of this forum) have an AGS 4x40 scope including mounts for only £26. You won't find anything to beat it for the job you have in mind.

    .22 has some advantages, especially in spring guns. It is a little more efficient, so requires less spring power to get the same muzzle energy.

    Fixed barrel guns are theoretically more accurate, hence most competition shooters prefer them. However, they also tend to be heavy.

    A well made break barrel is capable of excellent accuracy and has much to recommend it, weight, easy of use, very safe for an inexperienced user etc.

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