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    Position Of Loading Lever Catch Position On Imp Model D And Post War Standard

    Is the Position Of the Loading Lever Catch Position On 45" Imp Model D And Post War 45" Standard the same ? Recently saw a long cylinder .177 improved model d for sale and was wondering if it was a bitza, lash up or a mistake. But the tap looked small and there wasn't a no 2 engraved on the tap or serial number. Wonder if the factory made the odd 177 ? I haven't got a post 1918 push button standard to compare.
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    Hi Morgan,

    Not exactly sure what you mean. Are you talking about the position of the underlever catch peg on the underside of the barrel, or the relative dimensions of the loading tap lever itself, or maybe the relative positions of the loading taps on the two guns ?

    Slightly confused by your post.


    Lakey

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakey View Post
    Hi Morgan,

    Not exactly sure what you mean. Are you talking about the position of the underlever catch peg on the underside of the barrel, or the relative dimensions of the loading tap lever itself, or maybe the relative positions of the loading taps on the two guns ?

    Slightly confused by your post.


    Lakey
    Hi Alan,
    Hope you well. Its the position of the retaining catch for the cocking lever on the barrels of the Imp Mod D and the Standard, I was looking for. Is it the same.
    Could someone have added a later 45" .177 Standard action to Imp Mod D block and bayonet lever. The same position of the retaining catch on the earlier and later barrels would allow this. Or evidence of a filled in dovetail, where the standard catch had been.
    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by silva View Post
    Hi Alan,
    Hope you well. Its the position of the retaining catch for the cocking lever on the barrels of the Imp Mod D and the Standard, I was looking for. Is it the same.
    Could someone have added a later 45" .177 Standard action to Imp Mod D block and bayonet lever. The same position of the retaining catch on the earlier and later barrels would allow this. Or evidence of a filled in dovetail, where the standard catch had been.
    Cheers
    IIRC the cocking arms will be the same lengths on the same length actions of all size BSA's, so using a push button lever on a IMD or Ducks bill on a post 1919 standard would be possible, there were some differences in the main pivots however and in the secondary arm, so probably a complete 2 part assembly would be the way to go, mainy these differences are in regard to the gradual simplification and cost cutting stuff like the elimination of keeper screws culminating in the very plain late 1930's guns with the simple 1 or 2 stamp and the drop in stepped main pivot secured solely by the tap plate.

    Same with the stocks, but again slight differences depending on trigger guard type, I have fitted a pre 1919 straight hand stock on a post 1919 gun for someone, but the gun had the small tangless sheet metal guard that locates at the back so this was possible, but the front screw holes were unchanged in position from guns 25 years earlier.

    ATB, Ed

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