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    thoughts on HW95k NEW MODEL against OLD MODEL

    Having not purchased any air rifles for a good few years and moved onto clays and rimfire/center fire due to the closures of ranges and clay shooting grounds I found the urge to buy a three month old HW95k.The HW95 was my first weihrauch followed by every model they made bar for the 57,My thoughts on the new model being slightly lighter but something is missing or is it me.I still have a 97k and a HW80k both heavier rifles And both having been fitted with when they were available V Mach tuning kits which I found the best.What thoughts have other members have on this rifle bearing in mind it will take me a bit to get used to a springer all over again.
    HW 97k s/s laminated stock.HW80k,CZ 457 varmint.Tika T3x Super Varmint 223 rem. a HW95k having sneaked back in

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    I put an ARH kit & piston seal in my 9 month old HW95L .22 after the FPS had dropped. I had about 2K/3K shots through the rifle before the tune. This is a pic of the Weihrauch seal that was burned and damaged.


    This is the shot sound after the kit install.
    https://youtu.be/zhb_S0BVevs

    This is the crono data after the tune.
    Created: 05/11/21 10:53 AM
    Description:
    Notes 1:
    Notes 2:
    Distance to Chrono(FT): 4.00
    Ballistic Coefficient: 0.021
    Bullet Weight(gr): 14.66
    Temp: 60 F Partly cloudy
    BP: 1020.46 inHg
    Altitude: 495.00
    # FPS FT-LBS PF
    10 707 16.27 10.36
    9 709 16.37 10.39
    8 709 16.37 10.39
    7 712 16.50 10.44
    6 707 16.27 10.36
    5 708 16.32 10.38
    4 710 16.41 10.41
    3 712 16.50 10.44
    2 710 16.41 10.41
    1 718 16.78 10.53
    Average: 710.2 FPS
    SD: 3.3 FPS
    Min: 707 FPS
    Max: 718 FPS
    Spread: 11 FPS
    Shot/sec: 0.0
    True MV: 721 FPS
    Group Size (in): 0.00

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    I do have a newer version of the 95 but haven't used it extensively as yet. I have one of the very earliest versions in .177 which I love to bits and which is one of my most favourite rifles. I cannot imagine any reason why the later ones should be any less enjoyable or effective. I find them accurate and easy to use and would say to go right ahead. After a period of usage and getting to know the rifle inside-out, be led by your experiences and wants as to which tuning route (if any) to take. Take the time to get to know how this excellent springer wants to be handled and you will be rewarded by reliable and enjoyable long service.
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    I have an early Mk1 full length in .22 and it's fabulous! I prefer the longer barrel and muzzle weight, but the modern screwcut ones have plenty of benefits too.

    It's the second from bottom here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    I have an early Mk1 full length in .22 and it's fabulous! I prefer the longer barrel and muzzle weight, but the modern screwcut ones have plenty of benefits too.

    It's the second from bottom here:

    [IMG][/IMG]
    Nice collection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond.22 View Post
    Nice collection
    its a pleaure to see a fine collection,hope they get used, Having not had a chance till now to crono the hw95 found it more than a little low at 9.65ft/lbs with superdomes which is a little disappointing but first chance will strip and see what we can do to raise it a little.Have a mk2 HW 80k and that's only running 10.90ft/lbs but is as sweet as a nut.You do not need to be running 11.99ft/lbs with every rifle its to easy to creep up un noticed
    Last edited by davymole; 15-05-2021 at 10:38 PM.
    HW 97k s/s laminated stock.HW80k,CZ 457 varmint.Tika T3x Super Varmint 223 rem. a HW95k having sneaked back in

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    .177 or .22? Either way, before stripping and maybe upping the power, I'd be tempted to try some JSB (or JSB derivatives) through it first, as Superdomes rarely give the most power. A little more bedding-in time may also yield some more power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davymole View Post
    its a pleaure to see a fine collection,hope they get used, Having not had a chance till now to crono the hw95 found it more than a little low at 9.65ft/lbs with superdomes which is a little disappointing but first chance will strip and see what we can do to raise it a little.Have a mk2 HW 80k and that's only running 10.90ft/lbs but is as sweet as a nut.You need to be running 11.99ft/lbs with every rifle its to easy to creep up un noticed
    Virtually daily, guess what I've been doing this evening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmond.22 View Post
    Nice collection
    Nice rifles, but that's not a collection
    I'm currently looking for: crosman pumper spares (1322/1377/2289), a 2250/2260 main tube & valve, 25mm scope mounts to suit a 13mm BSA maxgrip, any thin drinking straw barrels (any cal), and any cheap, interesting, knackered project guns. Thanks, JB.

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    Looks like a nice venue for a "Euro-Bash" one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davymole View Post
    Having not had a chance till now to crono the hw95 found it more than a little low at 9.65ft/lbs with superdomes which is a little disappointing but first chance will strip and see what we can do to raise it a little.
    Quote Originally Posted by TonyL View Post
    .177 or .22? Either way, before stripping and maybe upping the power, I'd be tempted to try some JSB (or JSB derivatives) through it first, as Superdomes rarely give the most power. A little more bedding-in time may also yield some more power.
    Just to qualify yesterday's reply a little as I was on my phone on my break at work......95s, if running standard stroke, and if there's nothing wrong, will easily make "full UK legal power" (plus a little), even in .177. As advised above, please firstly try the JSB pellets, especially the RS and Express variants, prior to undertaking any work to up the power. Likely culprits if it were down on power still........it has been short-stroked (maybe doubtful at this age - do you know its history?), the breech seal may be leaking, the factory may have fitted a spring that was too enthusiastically shortened for the UK or the piston seal is very tight and an extended period of running-in may have the desired effect.

    Hope this helps.
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    will see how it progresses as it was only 12 weeks old when I bought it,trying a change of pellets, like I said not looking for full max power but a rifle that shoots decent groups and not harsh in used just like my 80 but that's a completely different rifle than the 95.thanks to all who have replied
    HW 97k s/s laminated stock.HW80k,CZ 457 varmint.Tika T3x Super Varmint 223 rem. a HW95k having sneaked back in

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    The 95/99 have the additional square openings in the tube for thrust blocks. Not unusual for factory quick fit to damage the seal lip on burrs.
    Result can be harsh action and low ME.

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    update

    update on hw95, when l stripped it down found the spring guide was sticking on its way into the piston so also on the way out causing the handbrake effect on the action, the spring had,nt even been finished off with rough edges, this is my latest Weirauch of too many to count and the build quality is far below what is expected from weihrauch, all,s well v,mach kit fitted Chrono shows just under 12 so the only two washers fitted require removal, otherwise please with the outcome
    HW 97k s/s laminated stock.HW80k,CZ 457 varmint.Tika T3x Super Varmint 223 rem. a HW95k having sneaked back in

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    The new one I bought twanged when shot,in fact it was so loud it was embarrassing.
    The earlier ones Iv'e had with the barrel weight just made a low thud when shot
    not a hint of twang!
    And don't get me started on the sharp cut ends on the new springs.

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