I have attempted to shoot unaided with my rifles (99,30,smk19 and meteor mk2) with much embarrassment - lucky to hit 3'' target at 20yds. The easiest is with the old meteor, just seems balanced and grew up with it, hitting cans over decades. Is it just my old age or are some of you younger lads practising holding iron girders. I appreciate I am rather old (well into my 60s) but I am jealously envious of some of the accuracy you lads can achieve at tremendous distances, that I know I couldn't even when I was much younger or now bench rested - well done.