Who made a Gem pattern?...

[leh22]

A somewhat bold statement it may be but here goes...I think most* of the European Gem patterns were made by one of three manufacturers - Eisenwerk Gaggenau, Langanhan or Jean Marck.

I seem to remember some Bergman marked Gem patterns too (were these likely to have been made by EG though?)

....and the mysterious Harpoon trademark...was that something to do with Bergman too?

MGR/Diana Gems bare an uncanny resemblance to LZ/FLZ Gems...both Diana 3L types (T-bar and dolls head) and Diana 6 share so many similarities with the Langanhan Gem patterns in there overall shape and design...

Sorry, my knowledge on this subject is so random and scattered that it is difficult to make sense of it, I rarely write anything down always relying on my memory...and have forgotten lots in the few short years I have been away...I wonder if this info is still relevant?



*obviously not all!

I'm pretty sure that the Harpoon stamping was simply the trademark used by the U.K. retailer/jobber "Osborne"

LarryH

[DCL_dave]

Sorry for the loss of your friend,
Yes,a big collection is a responsibility and can be very time consuming.Where I am a number of years ago we lost a great air gun range and there has not really been anything nearly as good or as convenient locally since, for me at least, and selling off much of my collection,too is something I regularly mull over...

ATB.

Hi Mark

Thank you for your kind words. Re. the collection, I had around 50 Gem patterns and i learned a lot from them, they were fun to own and shoot (I always took a Gem or two to the club) and very frustrating to research...many is the night spent chasing half chance ideas down blind alleys to come to no conclusions and be none the wiser!

I'm pretty sure that the Harpoon stamping was simply the trademark used by the U.K. retailer/jobber "Osborne"

LarryH

Thank you so much, Larry...that mark has vexed me for years!

So, another retailer then...and the list gets shorter

[Garvin]

Dave's Gem collection in its heyday:



1) Unknown model, possibly by Langenhan (FLZ)
2) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 14
3) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 14
4) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 17
5) Jean Marck No 3 with target sights (long hooked spur version )
6) Jean Marck No 3 (long hooked spur version )
7) Jean Marck No 3 (short hooked spur version )
8) Jean Marck No 3 (short hooked spur version )
9) Jean Marck No 2 Gallery model with target sights (long hooked spur version )
10) Jean Marck No 2 with target sights (long hooked spur version )
11) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No20
12) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No20
13) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No13
14) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No13
15) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No15
16) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No16
17) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No14
18) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar)
19) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar)
20) FLZ/Diana No 6
21) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar)
22) FLZ/Diana No3L (dollshead)
23) FLZ/Diana No3L (dollshead)
24) FLZ Composite type
25) FLZ Composite type
26) FLZ Composite type

[DCL_dave]

Dave's Gem collection in its heyday:



1) Unknown model, possibly by Langenhan (FLZ)
2) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 14
3) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 14
4) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No 17
5) Jean Marck No 3 with target sights (long hooked spur version )
6) Jean Marck No 3 (long hooked spur version )
7) Jean Marck No 3 (short hooked spur version )
8) Jean Marck No 3 (short hooked spur version )
9) Jean Marck No 2 Gallery model with target sights (long hooked spur version )
10) Jean Marck No 2 with target sights (long hooked spur version )
11) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No20
12) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No20
13) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No13
14) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No13
15) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No15
16) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No16
17) Eisenwerke Gaggenau No14
18) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar)
19) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar)
20) FLZ/Diana No 6
21) FLZ/Diana No3L (T-bar)
22) FLZ/Diana No3L (dollshead)
23) FLZ/Diana No3L (dollshead)
24) FLZ Composite type
25) FLZ Composite type
26) FLZ Composite type

Thanks, Danny

I remember that day...I had planned to take a load of pics but, having just got them outside and set up for that shot...the weather turned and I just about got a few shots before having to quickly carry them all back inside before the heavens opened.

[Garvin]

That collection of logs is almost as impressive, Dave.

[DCL_dave]

That collection of logs is almost as impressive, Dave.

Probably worth more too!

[micky2]

That collection of logs is almost as impressive, Dave.

That's what l thought as well. the rifles are not to bad either.