Quote Originally Posted by rapidresponse1 View Post
yes that was the only thing that let them down
That and a rather inefficient but very safe direct breech loading mechanism.

The Eclipse’s problem was that the HW77 was a heavy target rifle - in that it rapidly became the FT rifle of choice. The Eclipse tried to be a lighter hunting rifle, but by the time it was introduced, hunters who wanted a modern underlever had got used to lugging around the weight of the 77 (esp the K).

Also the Eclipse, like all 80s Webleys, was priced higher than most of the competition.

I’ve never had one, but a Mk2 carbine would be very interesting.