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    In real basic terms, Dave, although it's not sounding that bad currently and you can shoot okay with it, shortening the spring further will make it stiffer. Rather than more "solid preload" you want nice, soft, cushioning active coils. If you're happy with it as is, and it stays legal / not too close to the limit, persist and just get used to the gun. But shortening further wouldn't be the way to go and I'm sure you'll be much happier with the manners and cycle with a softer spring fitted in the long term.
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    It was explained to be like this. Unwind the spring so it’s straight and imagine it like a lever. A shorter one is stiffer, can lift more but requires more effort to be put in. A longer one is softer, will bend and have a limit of what it can lift but requires less effort.

    The trick is to have a spring that gives the feel and the power, that fits the gun with the desired feel, power and longevity.

    And the best way of pulling off that trick is to run the maths, or ask someone that can. Saves a hell of a lot of time, effort and money.

    The window is quite narrow, it’s like porridge.

    A spring that is too stiff won’t get better. A spring that’s too soft won’t get better. You can play with all the other elements but fundamentally you are doing that to compensate for something rather than arrive at the best setup.

    If you have a garden gate then that might be a good use for the titan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    It was explained to be like this. Unwind the spring so it’s straight and imagine it like a lever. A shorter one is stiffer, can lift more but requires more effort to be put in. A longer one is softer, will bend and have a limit of what it can lift but requires less effort.
    Interesting way of thinking about it:-)
    Way I visualise it is that it would be a lot easier to compress a 10 foot long spring 6 inches than it would be to compress a 1 foot piece of the same spring 6 inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post
    It was explained to be like this. Unwind the spring so it’s straight and imagine it like a lever. A shorter one is stiffer, can lift more but requires more effort to be put in. A longer one is softer, will bend and have a limit of what it can lift but requires less effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frog View Post
    Interesting way of thinking about it:-)
    Way I visualise it is that it would be a lot easier to compress a 10 foot long spring 6 inches than it would be to compress a 1 foot piece of the same spring 6 inches.
    I like both those analogies..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobF View Post

    And the best way of pulling off that trick is to run the maths, or ask someone that can. Saves a hell of a lot of time, effort and money.

    If you have a garden gate then that might be a good use for the titan.
    Fully agree re running the maths rather than relying on good old trial and error. Most can't / won't / are hesitant to try (myself included), but it really would be the way forward. But at least these days there is a decent knowledge pool to dip into.

    So, horticultural uses of mainsprings isn't a market cornered solely by the Ox?
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