Quote Originally Posted by cooper_dan View Post
I have a vortex red dot. Think it's 2 or 3moa and was about £150. Been really impressed with it really. I took it round an HFT course on one of my springers for a real test. Up to 25 yards I was knocking down everything, really easy to use, no parallax issues etc.
But as soon as you got beyond 30y the size of the dot is too large to use in a precise way. I knocked a couple of long range targets done but it was guesswork.
Also had a cheap 5moa hawke one that was junk in comparison. Turn up the brightness to anything usable and the dot bloomed to about 10moa or more
I'm with this and had the same experience, I only use mine on pistols mind, but a pistol HFT curse with 20m max spinners is easily achievable