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    Rats

    Guys, looked around and didn´t really find a heading that fit so..
    Here goes.

    I use the PCP´s for rat control. For various reasons we´ve got infested at the shop of mine.
    As of this writing tally is up to 63.

    I just recently did the jump to night vision, and in fact have set up all 4 of the PCP´s that way. One Yukon, one generic Asian one that uses a screeen, then an ATN Aries and finally a Pard NV008LRF.
    That said, got that covered.

    At the shop we at first shot many. Reaching 50 was rather easy, after that though it seems they have learned and gotten "gun shy" for lack of better words - why i reach out to you guys as i presume many of you are way more experienced than me on the subject.

    I´ve tried to try and get a grasp on their behavior but.. no dice. They can get REAL scarce for a while, then all of a sudden - like once a week to ten days - they´re friggin everywhere.

    These days i rarely spend nights at the shop but for various reasons me and an old friend of mine were at the shop last tuesday, and this was one of those days "they´re everywhere".
    We had tasks to cater to so i just got to shoot one but peeking out the door to take a P or just walking over to fetch something from the car.. That night i easily saw 30-40 different ones.

    Then the night after, about stone dead. Nothing. Not to be found.

    When we go after them i normally put bait out. Old buns, pasta and the likes. Seems the more the eadibles smell the more rats - in short.

    Trying to understand what runs these creatures though, i´ve tried making some sense out of their behavior.. nope. It´s like it´s all driven by pure chance. What gives?

    At that "range" of ours (two spots to be sure of backstop and what have you) there´s an ever so slight background lighting. It´s like they´ve learned that even walking out into that very sparse lighting = death.
    True enough, we do shoot them.. i mean. Hello. That´s the whole point, but it seems they´ve taken to that walking into the light CAN be bad and as stated this is anything but "super trooper" floodlight. More like 5 watts a bulb doing its thing, to hand you an idea at least.

    We shoot them, we trap them (as in rat traps) but lately as stated.. and i´m trying to make some sort of sense out of what drives them.
    Being wild animals i appreciate that they´re oppurtunists.. why logic to me tells they should go after anything that´s easy to stuff into their mouths.
    In short i´ve taken them to be very primal animals. Kind of sex, hunger and sleep and that´s it.

    We´ve also got mice at the shop, but them don´t really bother me. What i´ve learned though is that when they mice are not to be seen then normally the rats are around and vice versa.

    Right now it´s winter up here. Being that time of year we´ve got fairly high temps and no snow at the moment. A month back is was 10 below zero and about 2 feet of the stuff.
    That rats "burrow".. sure. On that we´ve got three clear holes in the ground right next to the actual building and these seem to stretch into/under the shop itself.
    Then on the backside of the building it seems they´ve nested in the actual wall at one place. In turn there´s a couple of storages out on the lot and they´ve dug burrows there as well, two of them.

    When it´s warmer we do NOT see this "once a week let´s go ballistic" while now during winter..

    So.
    You guys more knowledgeable on the subject than me, any ideas to spare?

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    Shooting on the same place for more than few days will make the rats shy. I would suggest once a week after an initial onslaught is best.

    Remove all food . Block as many holes as possible. Put bait down in the locations you want to shoot. Bait should not be out in the open but secluded.
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    Theres a reason you have rats just like anyone else, its a food source. In summer they forage in the fields and woods, in winter they look for warmth food and shelter. Rid the food source, rid the rats and mice. It may not be you that has a food source its could be a neighbour. Even bird tables can attract rats. What type of shop do you have.

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    Shop of mine, i build tube (valve) amps for instrument use.
    Yeah well, service and repair too of course.
    But that said since my racing days i´ve got heavy machinery around as well like lathes a bridgeport and so on.
    What has evolved is that i work loads on old blackpowder guns too.

    No. No "restaurant". Not even a coffee table. Outside though.. we´ve taken an old homeless man under our wings and him and food hygien is so so to be honest, and that at best.
    Thus i don´t really have rats IN the shop but very well outside, and all over. Guess the only reason they´d have to dig themselves inside would be warmth.
    Then again, as a gigin musician too we rehearse at that place as well. In short it gets VERY loud not only when we rehearse but when i try amplifiers out too.
    Guess that has an effect on them as well?

    With you guys as far as food source and all that but what is it that about makes them disappear and then once a week say "peek a boo" like nothing before?
    What controls that behavior?

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    Could it be the outdoor drains bringing them out when there’s heavy rain or visa versa.
    why is it there are more horses arses in the world than there are horses?

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    thats exactly what i was thinking

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    Rats

    Quote Originally Posted by Racing View Post
    Shop of mine, i build tube (valve) amps for instrument use.
    Yeah well, service and repair too of course.
    But that said since my racing days i´ve got heavy machinery around as well like lathes a bridgeport and so on.
    What has evolved is that i work loads on old blackpowder guns too.

    No. No "restaurant". Not even a coffee table. Outside though.. we´ve taken an old homeless man under our wings and him and food hygien is so so to be honest, and that at best.
    Thus i don´t really have rats IN the shop but very well outside, and all over. Guess the only reason they´d have to dig themselves inside would be warmth.
    Then again, as a gigin musician too we rehearse at that place as well. In short it gets VERY loud not only when we rehearse but when i try amplifiers out too.
    Guess that has an effect on them as well?

    With you guys as far as food source and all that but what is it that about makes them disappear and then once a week say "peek a boo" like nothing before?
    What controls that behavior?
    They might dig your music like a pied Piper?
    Big cats are out there !!!!!!!!!!!

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    Rats

    On a serious note as mentioned if possible try to see what's attracting them ferreting might be worth a try?
    Big cats are out there !!!!!!!!!!!

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    Hi racing, I think you may be in danger of making the fatal mistake of under-estimating your enemy. Rats, according to the behavioural experts are as "intelligent" as dogs.

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