Max range

[robs5230]

.22 and .177 will kill cleanly, out to ranges beyond which you'd shoot.
The only difference is the added complication of extra holdover with .22.

Just shoot at distances, at which you are confident you can consitently hit the kill zone at, whatever the calibre.

That may be 25 yards for one shooter and 45 for another.

[Travis299]

I have a max range of 30 yards for squirrels & rabbits with my HW95L .22 at 16.69 FPE. I shoot targets at range out to 50 yards but I use a table & bags for that. Been shooting for about 70 years and longest shot on a deer was close to 140 yards. Just really not interested in long range hunting. Stay safe and good luck to all.

[PCPShooter]

I've always thought of 30 yards in 22 and 35 in 177 as sensible max ranges, maybe extended 5 yards on 'zen days' and perfect shooting conditions.
As well as shooter it's the limitations of a diablo projectile

I don't think this is extended that much by fac air (however fac air permits vital organ shots on squirrels / crows etc, not rabbits in my opinion) However, if you want to shoot vermin further away then that is a perfectly good reason to get a powder burner .....

[para]

A creature of habit I've always zeroed at the following distances.
25 yards .22
35 yards .177.

I seem to also remember if you zero a .177 at 15 yards due to the trajectory it will also be zeroed at 35 yards to - useful if your limited on space or the wind is up

[robs5230]

A creature of habit I've always zeroed at the following distances.
25 yards .22
35 yards .177.

I seem to also remember if you zero a .177 at 15 yards due to the trajectory it will also be zeroed at 35 yards to - useful if your limited on space or the wind is up

Generic zero distances can give very different results between rifles, when factors like scope height, muzzle velocity and pellet weights are not the same from one rifle to another.

Picking a correct zero distance for a particular setup, is far better in terms of managing trajectory and aim points

[angrybear]

When you're hunting each shot is unique, if you're comfortable & the rifle supported you can shoot a lot further than if you're twisting/stretching to avoid an obstruction.
Each shot must be assessed on merit not just the range.

[mdunn]

I've seen a video of one of the airgun writers, shooting rabbits at 80 yards sub 12. It was on one of the Scottish Islands. Atb mick

[Travis299]

A creature of habit I've always zeroed at the following distances.
25 yards .22
35 yards .177.

I seem to also remember if you zero a .177 at 15 yards due to the trajectory it will also be zeroed at 35 yards to - useful if your limited on space or the wind is up

Chairgun chart showing near & far zero. https://www.hawkeoptics.com/chairgun...d-of-life.html

[angrybear]

Chairgun chart showing near & far zero. https://www.hawkeoptics.com/chairgun...d-of-life.html

That is actually what I call a perfect example of getting it wrong

The apex of the trajectory at 20yds should be just brushing the top of the shaded area at +1/2", not sitting on the line of sight 0-line.

The rifle zero needs to be extended from 25yds out to probably 28yds ish to make the most of the PBR.

[eyebull]

That is actually what I call a perfect example of getting it wrong

The apex of the trajectory at 20yds should be just brushing the top of the shaded area at +1/2", not sitting on the line of sight 0-line.
The rifle zero needs to be extended from 25yds out to probably 28yds ish to make the most of the PBR.

Would agree, normally have primary zero between 10 and 15 yds depending on calibre and scope height. Well worth playing with zero ranges on CG until you get the longest possible PBR, even if that means zeroing at something weird like 13.5 yds.

[Tea Kettle]

That is actually what I call a perfect example of getting it wrong

The apex of the trajectory at 20yds should be just brushing the top of the shaded area at +1/2", not sitting on the line of sight 0-line.

The rifle zero needs to be extended from 25yds out to probably 28yds ish to make the most of the PBR.

Excuse my basic question. Does your graph mean that everything from approx 7 yds to 32 yds would be within the kill zone of 1 inch, and no holdover or holdunder required if aiming at the center of the target?

[Shed tuner]

I've always thought of 30 yards in 22 and 35 in 177 as sensible max ranges, maybe extended 5 yards on 'zen days' and perfect shooting conditions.
As well as shooter it's the limitations of a diablo projectile

Yup - in field condition, I'd say this is bang on.

Back when I did a lot of HFT shooting, I saw how many struggled with 45 and even 40 yarders - and this is with ages to rangefind, get comfy, lay down prone, support the rile, check the wind, basically every possible assistance imaginable... and all that with a huge 45mm kill zone that was very unlikely to hop off ! Now take that down to a 25mm kill that is very seldom still and 35 yards would be way too much for most...

And as far as zero range, exactly as AB says....