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    Quote Originally Posted by DesG View Post
    Don't over think it. When they turn up, as long as you have the correct box, they will advise you of the best place to store it in their opinion. It makes them feel important if nothing else!
    I agree with the above. I bought an approved wooden box to store Hodgdon 777 BP substitute which I located in an unsecure cupboard and came with some self adhesive hazard labels not appropriate for 777. My FEO didn't have a problem with the box being temporally unlabeled until I could source the correctly annotated ones and there was no problem with the location or a securing chain being needed for the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    I agree with the above. I bought an approved wooden box to store Hodgdon 777 BP substitute which I located in an unsecure cupboard and came with some self adhesive hazard labels not appropriate for 777. My FEO didn't have a problem with the box being temporally unlabeled until I could source the correctly annotated ones and there was no problem with the location or a securing chain being needed for the box.

    Brian
    Another example of the local FEO making up laws as he goes along. There is actually no requirement to annotate the box at all. I send UN0027 (BP) labels with my boxes as some people like them and the fire service like to know what they are handling, but some forces reckon it just advertises what's in the box. The same goes for painting them. Some forces have no problem and others think it might help the box to burn. You really can't win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DesG View Post
    Another example of the local FEO making up laws as he goes along. There is actually no requirement to annotate the box at all. I send UN0027 (BP) labels with my boxes as some people like them and the fire service like to know what they are handling, but some forces reckon it just advertises what's in the box. The same goes for painting them. Some forces have no problem and others think it might help the box to burn. You really can't win.
    To be fair it was me who mentioned that the labels I had were incorrect and not a requirement insisted on by the FEO. I only applied for an Explosive Certificate as my FAC was due for renewal and Hodgdon 777 substitute had just been reclassified as an explosive. The process was straight forward, and the certificate was returned with my renewed FAC. The only problem now is that many dealers are not bothering to stock 777 anymore due to the predicted low demand following its reclassification.

    Brian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abasmajor View Post
    To be fair it was me who mentioned that the labels I had were incorrect and not a requirement insisted on by the FEO. I only applied for an Explosive Certificate as my FAC was due for renewal and Hodgdon 777 substitute had just been reclassified as an explosive. The process was straight forward, and the certificate was returned with my renewed FAC. The only problem now is that many dealers are not bothering to stock 777 anymore due to the predicted low demand following its reclassification.

    Brian
    I suspect that dealers not stocking it is not due to low demand.
    Kranks cannot store blackpowder on the premises anymore so it has to be ordered in advance of a visit to the shop. I expect all other dealers are affected the same way.

    Another obstacle to contend with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enfield2band View Post
    I suspect that dealers not stocking it is not due to low demand.
    Kranks cannot store blackpowder on the premises anymore so it has to be ordered in advance of a visit to the shop. I expect all other dealers are affected the same way.

    Another obstacle to contend with.
    Fortunately, I also have an Anvil nitro conversion Remington 1858 revolver which means I should always have something to shoot if BP and BP substitutes become even harder to source.

    Brian

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