Multiple pellets stuck in barrel.

[Neil54]

I wish I knew this yesterday. I have a tool for the job.
If it's only three you can push them out. Anymore and they tend to jam together and won't budge.
I have a slide hammer with a fine screw on the end. The most pellets I have taken out is 27, most recent 23. It hard to count when the lump is solid.
Pellets stuck in a springer are unusual. Mostly PCP's low on air.

I can make you up a tool but I will have to get some Rod.

[Phil Russell]

First, I am no scientist or chemist i know nothing about chemicals, but would a mild solution of some type of acid poured in from behind eventually dissolve the lead or would the acid attack the steel bore?

Chippendale

Yes. Stay away from adding any chemicals. The advice given re the cleaning rods and extracting pellet by pellet from the muzzle is the way to go.

Why did it happen? my guess is the piston O ring or buffer washer are naff, or both. Most likely buffer is naff which restricted the piston travel.
Good luck.
Cheers, Phil

[look no hands]

Yes. Stay away from adding any chemicals. The advice given re the cleaning rods and extracting pellet by pellet from the muzzle is the way to go.

Why did it happen? my guess is the piston O ring or buffer washer are naff, or both. Most likely buffer is naff which restricted the piston travel.
Good luck.
Cheers, Phil

The RB2s have the later parachute seal as fitted to the Supersport/star.

Pete

[4end]

Many thanks for the replies so far, luckily the Stutzen has the carbine barrel so it's only around 13 inches long so doesn't need an overly long rod, I like the separate 100mm idea, makes sense.

Pete

If you remove the tap it will become easier to fish out the deformed pellets. If you stick to the sizes I suggest the rifling will not be harmed. Recently I had a S400 with two magazines worth of pellets wedged solidly in one column in the barrel, the rods removed them with no harm to the rifling.

[Chippendale]

If you remove the tap it will become easier to fish out the deformed pellets. If you stick to the sizes I suggest the rifling will not be harmed. Recently I had a S400 with two magazines worth of pellets wedged solidly in one column in the barrel, the rods removed them with no harm to the rifling.

Tap, it's a rotating breech, hence RB Stutzen i think.

Chippendale

[look no hands]

Tap, it's a rotating breech, hence RB Stutzen i think.

Chippendale

Indeed so but if you cock the gun and take the thumb lever out the rotary breech block, you can push it down the cylinder so allowing the pellets to hopefully come out easily into the cylinder.

Pete

[Phil Russell]

The RB2s have the later parachute seal as fitted to the Supersport/star.

Pete

Thanks Pete ... I did not know that. Another snippet added to the memory bank.
Cheers, Phil

[Chippendale]

Indeed so but if you cock the gun and take the thumb lever out the rotary breech block, you can push it down the cylinder so allowing the pellets to hopefully come out easily into the cylinder.

Pete

Of course, I didn't realise you were taking the gun out of the stock and stripping it, apologies.

Melv

Chippendale. (with clothes on)

[look no hands]

Thanks Pete ... I did not know that. Another snippet added to the memory bank.
Cheers, Phil

Yes and the cylinder bore is 29mm not 28mm like the tap loaders.

Pete

[look no hands]

Well they are all out, I remembered I had an old barrel cleaning kit in the loft, so decided to sharpen the threaded end into a point, tapping it into the stuck pellets and then twisting a few times had chunks coming out like corks, in total the pellets where 2 inches long and basically all mashed together, I then took the risk of firing a new pellet out and it left the bore doing 10.8ftp, so I wouldn't say that there's much damage to the piston seal, result if you ask me.

Pete

[thisisdonald]

I wonder if the seal or spring or something was damaged and the pellets got stuck in the barrel, then the owner replaced some parts then tried a couple more pellets and when they didnt come out, wrote it off as totally broke?
Or, is it possible theres an intermittent fault?
It's a conundrum.

Edit,: also could it be possible that the rifle was fired with the muzzle submerged in water?

[NewPaul]

Edit,: also could it be possible that the rifle was fired with the muzzle submerged in water?

Hi Donald !

That’s interesting. Would that stop a pellet leaving the barrel then ??

[rovercoupe]

There was a bad batch of I think Smk pellets going round a while ago that we’re getting stuck apparently due to them being oversized, the shop was selling them off cheap in a bid to clear them out and be done with them.

[thisisdonald]

Hi Donald !

That’s interesting. Would that stop a pellet leaving the barrel then ??

Hi Paul! Hows it going buddy?
I'm just thinking about firearms barrels exploding when they get blocked with mud or such like... the amount of pressure behind the blockage is enough to burst the barrel into a birdcage (at least it did fir Elmer fudd!)
I'm thinking an air rifle wouldnt produce enough pressure to do the same but I reckon a blockage or the muzzle being submerged could be enough to stop the pellet in the barrel and the pressure would be forced back behind the pellet and be absorbed by the piston and spring.

I'm just hypothesizing here though. Maybe one of our ballistic experts could prove my theory right or wrong?

I'm just interested why the barrel was full of pellets, but once cleared, seems to work fine. I love a mystery!

[TonyL]

Well they are all out, I remembered I had an old barrel cleaning kit in the loft, so decided to sharpen the threaded end into a point, tapping it into the stuck pellets and then twisting a few times had chunks coming out like corks, in total the pellets where 2 inches long and basically all mashed together, I then took the risk of firing a new pellet out and it left the bore doing 10.8ftp, so I wouldn't say that there's much damage to the piston seal, result if you ask me.

Pete

Great to hear that you have got it sorted, Pete.. Are you going to give it a quick service / internal check over anyway, despite the healthy output, to put your mind at rest? Well done.

And some top, useful advice, as always, from the BBS collective and fine offer from Neil.