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    Quote Originally Posted by AC99 View Post
    It's the Hi-Power John.
    Thank you Aubrey - that number helps.

    Any more for any more?

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    Currently looking for Baikal Makarov pistols with the following prefixes to the serial number: 98, T01, T09, T21, T22
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    Not a direct answer to your specific questions, but my .22” Parabellum is s/n 02630. May help give an idea of production volumes over the years.

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    Hi John

    I will give you a list of mine tomorrow when I get on my computer for the detailed files.

    Very Big Mike on here had the Jackals Lair website which was a font of knowledge but I believe it is not live anymore.

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    Thank you Geezer and Paddy,

    Yes I recall the Jackal's lair and it is a shame that resource is no longer available. I wish I'd downloaded some of the information on it when it was still live.

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    Currently looking for Baikal Makarov pistols with the following prefixes to the serial number: 98, T01, T09, T21, T22
    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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    Always looking for any cheap, interesting, knackered "project" guns. Thanks, JB.

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    Thank you Jon - I've save that for the Jubilee weekend.

    Thank you Harvey too for the SN.

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    John
    Currently looking for Baikal Makarov pistols with the following prefixes to the serial number: 98, T01, T09, T21, T22
    Prefer boxed or cased but will consider loose examples too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Thank you Geezer and Paddy,

    Yes I recall the Jackal's lair and it is a shame that resource is no longer available. I wish I'd downloaded some of the information on it when it was still live.

    Kind regards,

    John
    Hi John

    Here are some stats for you in my collection.

    Oldest Serial# Jackal is a S.A Parabellum 3971, to 'Newest' Serial# Jackal is a Hi-Power 11388

    If you count Air Arms Oldest Serial# is a Hi-Power 17314, to 'Newest' Serial# is a Hi-Power 34562.

    Now if you you count Wood Stocked Air Arms Oldest Serial# is a Camargue 22759, to 'Newest' Serial# is a SE90 40920.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pad. E View Post
    Hi John

    Here are some stats for you in my collection.

    Oldest Serial# Jackal is a S.A Parabellum 3971, to 'Newest' Serial# Jackal is a Hi-Power 11388

    If you count Air Arms Oldest Serial# is a Hi-Power 17314, to 'Newest' Serial# is a Hi-Power 34562.

    Now if you you count Wood Stocked Air Arms Oldest Serial# is a Camargue 22759, to 'Newest' Serial# is a SE90 40920.

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    Paddy
    Interesting. Assuming SA numbers started at 0000, 100, or 1000 in 1977, that s/ns were sequential, and bearing in mind that the SE90 was only briefly produced 1989-91, that suggests around 40,000 rifles over 23ish years, so an average annual production rate of around 2,000 - though I imagine a fair bit more in the 70s through mid-80s, and tailing off quickly after new fixed-barrel rifles like the HW77 - and eventually the TX - appeared on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geezer View Post
    Interesting. Assuming SA numbers started at 0000, 100, or 1000 in 1977, that s/ns were sequential, and bearing in mind that the SE90 was only briefly produced 1989-91, that suggests around 40,000 rifles over 23ish years, so an average annual production rate of around 2,000 - though I imagine a fair bit more in the 70s through mid-80s, and tailing off quickly after new fixed-barrel rifles like the HW77 - and eventually the TX - appeared on the market.
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    Some math's you done there

    Also to take into consideration, is that some very early Air Arms models were put together with Sussex Armoury Parts. So serial # could be from mixed parts, and proper sequential order would be hard to ascertain in the transition period.

    Though I Reckon I'm thinking too much into it.

    What is interesting though is that I must have a very early Camargue & a rather late Hi-Power in my collection

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pad. E View Post
    Hi

    Some math's you done there

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    I don’t just have the O-level, I have the A/O. 🤓

    Production numbers do interest me. Not just in assessing rarity, but some guns that were all over the mags and the ads for years appear to have been made/sold in rather small numbers.

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    John

    I've got some of the late 70's early 80's Sussex Armoury catalogues, brochures and price lists, if you're interested in photographing them at the next Kempton Arms Fair?

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