Bullpups - Sinclair C5 of the future discuss ?

[PCPShooter]

I think bullpups look crap and handle weird - nothing an ultra carbine doesn't do better for me (my opinion)

Will they be worth naff all in a few years - I reckon, yes most likely -

Discuss (I can't wait)

[Shed tuner]

I generally find the balance too far back for a stable shot, but a heavy moderator helps.
The compactness when shooting from a hide or vehicle is great though, and if you have a rested position, the crap balance is a non issue.

[Daryll]

I love bullpups...!!

I've never tried an airgun BP (although I plan to remedy that in the near future) but I loved the balance and handling of the L85 (despite its other problems) and I own a Steyr AUG which is my favorite gun to shoot.

[The Squire]

I sold a ‘project’ C5 we found in my late father in law’s shed. You would not believe the amount of people queuing up to pay very good money for it.

[rancidtom]

If we were allowed full auto airguns then maybe, but why would people need a full auto airgun? Bullpups were designed for close quarter warfare against humans, not rats or squirrels etc. The idea behind the bullpup was based on "spray and pray" while you jump through a doorway shouting the obligatory "Hut! Hut! Hut!" in an American accent....
The airsoft brigade have them for placcy BB's, which for me tells me all I need to know.

[Unframed Dave]

Yuk!

Dave

[angrybear]

While I really don't like the appearance of 99% of bullpups, a compact rifle has advantages in overgrown woods & in/around farm buildings.
because all the weight is in tight to your body they can be very well balanced & appear lighter to carry.

I'm sure when the first Rapids came out people hated the bottle & said it's a fad, no one will buy them in 6 months

[rancidtom]

Another thing to consider, especially for a close quarters gun is the sight line to barrel distance, totally the wrong way to go.

[rancidtom]

While I really don't like the appearance of 99% of bullpups, a compact rifle has advantages in overgrown woods & in/around farm buildings.
because all the weight is in tight to your body they can be very well balanced & appear lighter to carry.

I'm sure when the first Rapids came out people hated the bottle & said it's a fad, no one will buy them in 6 months

Personally I think they are another gimmick, entirely the product of advertising to the "wanna be Action Man". Now as every advertiser knows there's a new crop of mugs queueing with their wallets flapping every time they open this month's "PopGun News" so this is why they are still selling. As we well know Daystate depend on these people, they survive by selling "limited edition" models to the fashion victims. Of course we also see the same with the other manufacturers, the major ones who hadn't joined the DullPup fashion parade quickly adopted them in fear of losing a good percentage of the marketplace, BSA and Weihrauch were late to the feeding frenzy but they have now followed the trend.

[les allam]

I got a fx Wildcat mk1 after having a shoot with one at my old Ft club.
It was different enough to be interesting and I liked the look of it.
Like others have said, the weight and balance is unusual ,for me it’s to light at the barrel end for unsupported shooting.
I am used to shooting big heavy springers and my bull pup is a different beast altogether.
I need to shoot it a bit more to gel with it.
Les..

[Cannon Fodder]

If we were allowed full auto airguns then maybe, but why would people need a full auto airgun? Bullpups were designed for close quarter warfare against humans, not rats or squirrels etc. The idea behind the bullpup was based on "spray and pray" while you jump through a doorway shouting the obligatory "Hut! Hut! Hut!" in an American accent....
The airsoft brigade have them for placcy BB's, which for me tells me all I need to know.

Not quite, the idea behind a bullpup wasn't spray and pray, it was to allow a longer barrel in a shorter platform resulting in more power from the same cartridge allowing a longer effective range.

[where's it gone]

The airgun market is fuelled by the restrictions of gun ownership in this country. So called 'action man' stigma given to some is a bit unfair. Are car drivers wannabe F1 driver's by driving a car with manufacturers specifications, ie low profile tyres, bigger rims etc ?
Look at the airgun pistol market. What a plethora of lookalikes!
Restrictions make any items more desirable. Bullpups in air rifles has yet to be refined to fulfillment, in my view. Development will progress but this cost money. Are shooters willing to pay ? Sell figures will tell.

[junglie]

If we were allowed full auto airguns then maybe, but why would people need a full auto airgun? Bullpups were designed for close quarter warfare against humans, not rats or squirrels etc. The idea behind the bullpup was based on "spray and pray" while you jump through a doorway shouting the obligatory "Hut! Hut! Hut!" in an American accent....
The airsoft brigade have them for placcy BB's, which for me tells me all I need to know.

i'm no fan of bullpups either especially the ridiculously overpriced offerings from daystate etc, however watching the vids on youtube of the full auto airguns decimating tin cans etc on the range I can see the appeal of those for mad plinking sessions for a laugh. (& a lot less dangerous than full auto firearms) My titan mp3 is all the carbine I'll ever need though & the wife loves shooting it as it's so light.

[32:1]

i'm no fan of bullpups either especially the ridiculously overpriced offerings from daystate etc, however watching the vids on youtube of the full auto airguns decimating tin cans etc on the range I can see the appeal of those for mad plinking sessions for a laugh. (& a lot less dangerous than full auto firearms) My titan mp3 is all the carbine I'll ever need though & the wife loves shooting it as it's so light.

The daystate isn’t my cup of tea either, they are basically a Redwolf in a BP configuration. There’s a guy at our little benchrest club that out shoots virtually everyone with his pulsar so there tidy

Have you ever used a Bullpup ?

I scoffed at them too until I used one, not for everyone but you have to at least try one

Chris

[Steyr]

I think bullpups look crap and handle weird - nothing an ultra carbine doesn't do better for me (my opinion)

Will they be worth naff all in a few years - I reckon, yes most likely -

Discuss (I can't wait)

Well you miss the point of a bullpup Vs a carbine then.

A carbine - especially in an air rifle PCP means a shorter barrel and less air capacity.
A BP allows for a full length barrel and bigger capacity depending on make and model. For me a BP long barrel makes sense for firearms but a carbine and a full length should not show much in terms of accuractly at sub 12 plwer.

Personally I much prefer the balance of a bullpup over carbine and certainly over a full length rig.

It depends on use you require. BPs are excellent but tend to be fugly. But you dont buy BP for looks as a rule.

Some of the early bullpups had shit triggers via coat hanger wire rods. Not so much now.

Folding stock and mod off its a neat package and BPs will outperform a carbine in tight vehicle antics.

You can happily stick to your carbine. Personally the performance and ease of use for a BP makes a carbine a very indifferent choice attempting to.make a long rifle short in the most inefficient way