Bullpups - Sinclair C5 of the future discuss ?

[les allam]

I got a fx Wildcat mk1 after having a shoot with one at my old Ft club.
It was different enough to be interesting and I liked the look of it.
Like others have said, the weight and balance is unusual ,for me it’s to light at the barrel end for unsupported shooting.
I am used to shooting big heavy springers and my bull pup is a different beast altogether.
I need to shoot it a bit more to gel with it.
Les..

[clipper]

For shooting in limited spaces I think they have a niche, and if I had nothing else would probably get used to the compromised hold for everywhere else

[EricP]

I used to have this “bullpups are crap” prejudice even though I used to shoot a Steyr AUG armalite in Oman in the eighties, and remember it fondly.
When I went to air rifles I found lovely highly regarded rifles that I did not get on with and others I did. I shoot well with Walthers and Anschutz, crap with Air Arms, OK with Weihrauch. Just had to find the ones that suited me best.
Thought I would never use a bullpup again.
Then I got a Zbroia Kozak for my 60th birthday and again it fitted me. I have two PCPs (the other is a full rifle) and out of the two I like the Zbroia more, and shoot it more. In spite of the opinions voiced on this thread, at the age of 64 I have no pretensions to being Action Man, do not wear Camo in polite society and have not been known to say “Hut, Hut, Hut” even under my breath.
So to sum up, anyone who says “bullpups are crap” is in the same camp as one who says “rifles are crap” or “pistols are crap” what they are really saying is “I prefer to voice my prejudices rather than check to see whether a gun fits me regardless of the form factor”.
Bullpups are not a “fad” that will disappear, there are too many, they have been around too long and are too popular.

[severnsider]

I used to have this “bullpups are crap” prejudice even though I used to shoot a Steyr AUG armalite in Oman in the eighties, and remember it fondly.
When I went to air rifles I found lovely highly regarded rifles that I did not get on with and others I did. I shoot well with Walthers and Anschutz, crap with Air Arms, OK with Weihrauch. Just had to find the ones that suited me best.
Thought I would never use a bullpup again.
Then I got a Zbroia Kozak for my 60th birthday and again it fitted me. I have two PCPs (the other is a full rifle) and out of the two I like the Zbroia more, and shoot it more. In spite of the opinions voiced on this thread, at the age of 64 I have no pretensions to being Action Man, do not wear Camo in polite society and have not been known to say “Hut, Hut, Hut” even under my breath.
So to sum up, anyone who says “bullpups are crap” is in the same camp as one who says “rifles are crap” or “pistols are crap” what they are really saying is “I prefer to voice my prejudices rather than check to see whether a gun fits me regardless of the form factor”.
Bullpups are not a “fad” that will disappear, there are too many, they have been around too long and are too popular.

All of the above! I was very peasantly surprised when I tried a Zbroia Kozak - all my "prejudices" evaporated very swiftly. A good fit and easy to hold on point of aim. A joy to shoot.

[Biker_Bob]

I think they're very good.
I like the weight in the shoulder feel, as opposed to the front heavy feel of a normal rifle (especially a springer).
I like that they will fit in a rucksack, so can be carried discretely and even carried on a motorcycle.
And I guess that for me, I look at everything from an engineering point of view. If an airgun can be made short and light (and in the case of PCP it can) then why have one that's long and heavy?
Since a rifle has to be at least 24" long here that's the smallest we can go, so when bullpup shopping I look for the one that's closest to that.

[Kes]

I think they're very good.
I like the weight in the shoulder feel, as opposed to the front heavy feel of a normal rifle (especially a springer).
I like that they will fit in a rucksack, so can be carried discretely and even carried on a motorcycle.
And I guess that for me, I look at everything from an engineering point of view. If an airgun can be made short and light (and in the case of PCP it can) then why have one that's long and heavy?
Since a rifle has to be at least 24" long here that's the smallest we can go, so when bullpup shopping I look for the one that's closest to that.

Yep. Me too.

I had my HW100K converted to a bullpup design back in 2007, purely because it made it more comfortable to shoulder and shifted the weight balance backwards which for me is always better. It was my HFT gun and my scores improved greatly after it's reconfiguration. The scope to barrel height did make some close-up shots a bit tricky but with practice and holdover knowledge I was able to overcome that. Although I sold it when I stopped doing HFT a few years back, it remains the most comfortable air rifle I've ever used (and I've owned dozens and dozens).