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    For anyone considering archery curtains as a short range backstop

    We have recently had cause to test the effectiveness of ours. The results were a bit of a shock.

    Our power limit is 7.5ftlbs with 177 diabolo pellets and we shoot at a range of 18 feet or approx 5.5 metres.

    With a double thickness of the best grade curtain and using a rifle shooting at 7.4ftlbs, pellets go straight through. They do not make a hole in the curtain, and the weave is smaller than the pellet diameter. The weave must open and then "heal" back.

    With another curtain in front and an air gap of approximately 1.5 metres, pellets are stopped.

    Upping the power to 11ftlbs, in order to determine some sort of factor of safety, the pellet penetrates all three layers of curtain and convincingly lodges itself in plywood.

    In summary, archery curtains are not a suitable back stop for short range shooting. I have not carried out any testing at longer ranges.

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    These were suggested to us for our indoor airgun range, but we decided against and went for airbag material instead. Stops a full power .177 or .22 rifle pellet* at 10m, (round or flat head - NOT - pointy pellets though). I believe some archery clubs use it (indoors), but I can't comment on the efficacy of it.

    Milliken Ltd sell it.

    * Repeated hits in the same area will cause the material to weaken. We hang a patch of heavy duty ground sheet directly behind our pellet catchers and spinners.
    Kral Demon, Webley VMX, Stoeger 20, 2 x Crosman 1077's, SMK QS79, Walther Nighthawk, Walther CP99, Walther Reign, AAS200 MK1, Webley Tempest, ASG TAC Repeat, ASI Sniper (in bits). I think that's all of them - mostly shot by young people on a 10m/4 lane indoor range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pa_broon74 View Post
    These were suggested to us for our indoor airgun range, but we decided against and went for airbag material instead. Stops a full power .177 or .22 rifle pellet* at 10m, (round or flat head - NOT - pointy pellets though). I believe some archery clubs use it (indoors), but I can't comment on the efficacy of it.

    Milliken Ltd sell it.

    * Repeated hits in the same area will cause the material to weaken. We hang a patch of heavy duty ground sheet directly behind our pellet catchers and spinners.
    Have looked at their website, struggling to find it. Do you have a link or any reference?

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    I used to use archery curtains at a club, as long as they weren't pulled really taut, they worked ok, even with .177 could be that there's different thicknesses or weight, I never pulled them tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rog5 View Post
    I used to use archery curtains at a club, as long as they weren't pulled really taut, they worked ok, even with .177 could be that there's different thicknesses or weight, I never pulled them tight.
    Ours are allowed to hang freely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unframed Dave View Post
    Have looked at their website, struggling to find it. Do you have a link or any reference?

    Cheers
    You just need to phone and ask for it. I hunted and hunted for it on their website, eventually got a name and phone number:

    Simon Hartley

    Market Manager
    Milliken Industrials Ltd
    Wellington Mill
    Bury

    Lancs

    BL8 2AY.

    United Kingdom
    T 00 44 161 762 3611 / M 00 44 7770 685055

    Simon.Hartley@Milliken.com


    That fellow knew what I was after as soon as I started to explain. On the invoice I have, the product code is 7363-235-2050. It's what other scout groups who shoot have used. You hang it loosely from the ceiling. I bought 10m x 3m for £90 at the beginning of 2020, just before everything shut down.
    Kral Demon, Webley VMX, Stoeger 20, 2 x Crosman 1077's, SMK QS79, Walther Nighthawk, Walther CP99, Walther Reign, AAS200 MK1, Webley Tempest, ASG TAC Repeat, ASI Sniper (in bits). I think that's all of them - mostly shot by young people on a 10m/4 lane indoor range.

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    Our local leisure centre used rubber conveyor belting as a backstop curtain for short rimfire use --- it may be a bit ott for your use, Dave, but it's another material to consider.




    All the best Mick

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    Thanks very much.

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