Webley Mark II Service - roll mark anomaly?

[Leonardj]

Pics and info here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/amer...aly-t9785.html

[Troubledshooter]

Certainly looks different to any I have seen, Len. Here's a couple of pics. of one of mine, S/No: S11588
The impressions have been highlighted either by the factory or a previous owner, so it shows the anomaly clearly :

[Garvin]

Judging by the rounded rivets on the cocking links and the squared shape of the interceptor sear housing, this is a late one. The 'Manufactured by...' stamp on the left trigger housing looks too near the bottom also.

Maybe you just couldn't get the staff during the war?

I used to have a late one which anomalously was missing any stamping on the right side of the cylinder:

[Farsight]

A few thoughts:
Looks to me as though there are still slight traces of the MARK 11 stamping in the correct position below the bolt .
The drag links and cocking shoe are different from those I have seen, being much simplified. The rivet ends are not properly snapped either on the patents side. (Not an expert by the way, but I have handled a few.)
Safety sear has an oddly undercut end.
The bolt handle looks home made.
The font looks more like I've seen on 1960s stuff.

I reckon this was an incomplete gun in a very rough state which someone has had a fair crack at getting working again. The cylinder and trigger block were probably rust pitted or otherwise damaged and have been filed down ;it might be instructive to run a mike over those parts

Atb
Mark

[cringe]

Could it be a copy? I remember reading some where about gunsmiths in India? they could make very good replica's of almost any fire arm. kind regards Al.

[Troubledshooter]

Could it be a copy? I remember reading some where about gunsmiths in India? they could make very good replica's of almost any fire arm. kind regards Al.

That's a thought, although I've never seen a photograph of an Indian made Service rifle.

[Garvin]

Could it be a copy? I remember reading some where about gunsmiths in India? they could make very good replica's of almost any fire arm. kind regards Al.

Al the more I look at this rifle the more I think you might be right.

All the pics here:

https://forum.vintageairgunsgallery....fle/#post-7379