Springer set up is as much about preference as anything else

[baldinio]

There's definitely a number of different ways a spring gun can be tuned, and it's a bit trial and error finding what suits you. It's one of the things I love about going to the boinger bash, there are a huge number of different springers there ranging from original spec to super tuned, and everything in between. Most folks are happy to let you shoot their different guns and explain what has or hasn't been done to them. It helped me better understand springers, tuning and what I prefer in a springer

[Shed tuner]

There's definitely a subjective element, e.g. fast, harsh, soft, whatever. Personal preference is absolutely a factor.

But there is also an objective element - too much recoil (e.g. a very heavy piston), harsh piston landing (too big a port, or too much bounce), too much muzzle flip, low efficiency (often caused by excessively low preload), etc.

So yes.. and no

[dearne75]

It does come down to what shot cycle the owner prefers.
Consistant accuracy from the owner is still the main factor.

[PCPShooter]

It does come down to what shot cycle the owner prefers.
Consistant accuracy from the owner is still the main factor.

And it stands to reason, humans being very different not just in technique, but in stature / physical strength that that will vary to each person, and to their taste / ability


As an illustration - I really don't get on with Pro Sports - plenty of folk do - it doesn't make either party right or wrong, or better / worse shooters etc ...

[Jesim1]

Totally agree with the OP, which means there is not much to discuss

[TonyL]

There's definitely a subjective element, e.g. fast, harsh, soft, whatever. Personal preference is absolutely a factor.

But there is also an objective element - too much recoil (e.g. a very heavy piston), harsh piston landing (too big a port, or too much bounce), too much muzzle flip, low efficiency (often caused by excessively low preload), etc.

So yes.. and no

Agree. But many people might not be able to analyse the sequence / cause(s) of certain facets. A really harsh or very long and lazier feeling cycle is, obviously, easier to highlight for many.

The things that are more obviously apparent (and desirable to most of us) are a smooth cocking cycle with no grating / harsh sounds and a twang free firing cycle, to my mind.....Although a cynic might argue that these can be achieved by over-generous helpings of grease as opposed to what might be considered "tuning".


Warning.....many a previously happy gun has been wrecked / spoiled by amateur "tuning".

[Muskett]

If a rifle shoots nicely enough then leave alone.
The better designs may just need a service once in a while, and be sparing with the molly and grease. That is as far as I go.

Those "deep" tuners can chase perfection to destruction. Occasionally they get their near on perfection. Inexperienced trying "deep" tuning may well end up with a pile of bits. But there is a hobby in trying.
Steve Pope would never have found how to get the most out of a HW35 without trying. Those trials he took to HW77s and 80s. Much learnt can be found in modern Air Arms springers. All that work got some springers to be effective beyond farmyard ranges.
I still think most springers really shouldn't be considered "beyond the farmyard" rifles. Those who want to try to make a rifle do better have fun with it, but do expect a challenge.

I had 35 springers at one time. Only a couple would I consider able for beyond the farmyard. Nicely tuned or just run in would generally give 7m more. Its lovely when you find one that: "really shoots"; but not absolutely necessary. Range is whatever you can hit a Polo mint at, then stalk to that range.