Thanks for the above , For some reason there always seem to be a big difference when this question is asked about the hw100 , I did tempt to buy the 110 and reviews on the tube was saying about 120 shots in 177 , When I phoned the gun shop to check stock and confirm the shot count I was told a good 40 odd in 177, Pre 12 in 177 vary from 40 to 120 shots, Just thought I'd ask and just clarify as it's not for me, But yes , left side of 12 and in 177 , I'd rather go with the k version to be on the safe side,