Help to identify a rifle please

[jinxs]

HI i been asked to look over a couple rifles but l`m having trouble with finding them,
First one could be a Titan/Falcon fn 19 ? , no marking on it apart from swp 2700psi and a serial number 01831(no luck finding it on the web) on top of the breech housing, the stock as finger groves no checkering on the fore end but checkering on the pistol grip and the barrel and cylinder don't look to have been blued or very very thin blueing.
Second one only says made in Hungary with the serial number 10509 Any ideas ?
Sorry can't do links too pictures.
Cheers ,
Steve

[angrybear]

Unfortunately, without pictures it will be very difficult, use postimages.org, resize for a message board, to expire after 7 days, & copy/paste as a hot link, or email them to someone to do for you.

[Murphy]

Email then to me and I will put them up.

[jinxs]

Thank you, Murphy, i will email them tomorrow.
Cheers,
Steve

[averageplinker]

The first could be a Titan/Falcon.....an early Daystate or an Alros or a Brocock?

The second I would put money on being a Relum

[Murphy]