Just tried something I've never done before on a springer.... and it worked !

[T 20]

I still have an Ox spring I took out of an xs20 (hw95 clone). It had been stuffed in full length and it had literally torn the cocking shoe in two with use. As said previously, therein is most of the problem.

Another thing which I think contributed to the OX's bad reputation was the simple fact that they were introduced before chronographs became readily available at an affordable price.

Shooting into the Telephone directory and counting the number of pages penetrated is no substitute for having a reliable velocity figure in front of you.

Nowadays I couldn't imagine twatting about with springers without a decent chrono to work with --- we're spoiled now.




All the best Mick

[TonyL]

Another thing which I think contributed to the OX's bad reputation was the simple fact that they were introduced before chronographs became readily available at an affordable price.

Shooting into the Telephone directory and counting the number of pages penetrated is no substitute for having a reliable velocity figure in front of you.

Nowadays I couldn't imagine twatting about with springers without a decent chrono to work with --- we're spoiled now.

All the best Mick

Sadly, even these days you sometimes get told stories by people who used to have airguns "back in the day" who had "tuned" them with "special" springs which were "reet parful" without having a clue as to what power the rifle was actually making.

[T 20]

Sadly, even these days you sometimes get told stories by people who used to have airguns "back in the day" who had "tuned" them with "special" springs which were "reet parful" without having a clue as to what power the rifle was actually making.

I still get folks tell me that you can make a springer really powerful by just fitting a stronger Spring, Tone.


"It'll put pellets straight through both sides of a dustbin"





All the best Mick

[Dornfelderliebe]

In spite of my use of a standard spring in a meteor I'm beginning to ponder using a Titan BUT and it's a big but I don't know how much to start cutting it down. I'm thinking 1 inch of preload to begin with.

[Shed tuner]

In spite of my use of a standard spring in a meteor I'm beginning to ponder using a Titan BUT and it's a big but I don't know how much to start cutting it down. I'm thinking 1 inch of preload to begin with.

most important question - what are you trying to achieve ?

[Dornfelderliebe]

most important question - what are you trying to achieve ?

Either equal to or marginally greater than the 11 fpe I am currently getting with a standard spring. with no loss of manners as shown with the comments on over powerfull Oxs stuffed into guns that can't take them.
My thoughts are can a shorter Titan equal a standard BSA spring.

[Shed tuner]

Either equal to or marginally greater than the 11 fpe I am currently getting with a standard spring. with no loss of manners as shown with the comments on over powerfull Oxs stuffed into guns that can't take them.
My thoughts are can a shorter Titan equal a standard BSA spring.

the spring is not your problem... you need a new piston head/sealing arrangement, as per my reply on your other "meteor musings" thread. More spring + bad sealing = horrible, self destroying recipie for disaster...