Why has the concealed underlever idea been dumped except for the PS .

[Barryg]

You make an excellent point about the Chinese! I wonder why they have never copied this? An Asian manufacturer did produce a B40(I think) which was similar to an Air Arms model for a while but maybe they are reluctant to try mimicking that brand that again? Still an Airsporter copy would be interesting.Even Gamo who seem to produce a mind boggling amount of variants have not yet attempted the hidden underlever other that the Stutzen from years ago. I live in hope.

One way to manufacture a concealed lever without extra cost would be to simplify it, look at this armature bodge that could be refined.

[Gamocfx]

Thats rather clever, what rifle is that please? Lets hope this ingenious idea gives a manufacturer a nudge-hopefully a chinese one then I could afford it!

[Barryg]

Thats rather clever, what rifle is that please? Lets hope this ingenious idea gives a manufacturer a nudge-hopefully a chinese one then I could afford it!

It's a Diana 460 with a few 52 parts, it looks a bit of a mess in the pictures but just think what is would look like if it had purpose made parts by a manufacturer, also it would have a big advantage over the PS for export as the PS is suited to low power and this would be suited to any power for the no limit countries.

[Gamocfx]

Thats actually a nice looking rifle and very clever! really liking the adjustable stock-very useful

[Geezer]

Because springers really benefit from some weight up front, and the underlevers address that in their natural format.

What he said. (though I like my Airsporters). Also easier to cock. Looks v function.

[Cinimod]

I wonder why the Webley Eclipse went from a prototype concealed underlever to the standard production design? They would have been more elegant their originally intended way.

Well, everyday is a school day, I never knew that the prototype was concealed. It would make sense, as it is mine always feels a bit front heavy with the lever under the barrel.........dom

[Barryg]

I wonder why the Webley Eclipse went from a prototype concealed underlever to the standard production design? They would have been more elegant their originally intended way.

I had a MK 1 Eclipse and although they had faults, I liked it and would have liked it better if it had a concealed lever Do you have any links or pictures of the prototype?

[4end]

That's the reason I love the Prosport and Airsporter, for me it's the looks, I'm not keen on the looks of exposed underlevers, I know they are easier to cock but they seem to muck up the lines of the rifle.

Then get yourself a sidelever and look at it from the other side. No lever to be seen, nothing to offend the eye.

[look no hands]

Then get yourself a sidelever and look at it from the other side. No lever to be seen, nothing to offend the eye.

Ah! OK, or I could sell all my airguns and buy a shotgun and upset everyone when I go to the next boinger bash but saying that I don't actually have a sidelever in my collection, so I could get one take it too a boinger bash and get Tone to cock it for me and I could shoot it with one eye shut