Which one to keep/sell/give?

[stillp]

I still have a few good rifles as well as the fixer-uppers I listed in another thread. I don't want to get rid of them all, but I think I only want to keep one, give one to my 25 year old grandson, and sell the others.
I have:
1. An early HW80 in .22. It's had the stock refinished reasonably well, and a Welsh Willie kit fitted. Also has a very nice Nikko Sterling Mountmaster 3-9 x 40 scope. Only had about 10 pellets through it since the WW kit was fitted.
2. Crossman Phantom in .177. Black synthetic stock, with a Centre Point 4 x 32 scope. Good condition.
3. SMK TH78D CO2 powered .22 in very good condition. I've had this one from new, it has the factory scope and silencer and is in as new condition.
4. Webley Tracker in .22. Has a few small marks on the stock but generally good condition and shoots well. Scope is a BSA "22 Special".
5. Webley Mark 3 in .177. Must be a fairly early model as is doesn't have dovetails for scope mounting but it has the later style of back block. Looks as if someone tried to weld a mounting rail onto the back block but the weld has been ground off. I have a good back block for it but haven't got round to changing it. Shoots very well. Stock seems to have been sanded and satin varnished.

At the moment I'm thinking of keeping the Mark 3 (I've owned it since 1978!) and giving either the Tracker or the Crossman to the grandson, and selling the other Weirauch and the SMK as I think they're likely to raise the most money. Does that seem the right choice?
Can anyone suggest a selling price for these please?
Pete

[where's it gone]

Keep Tracker, give Hw80, and sell the others.

[madcarlos]

Keep the hw80,

[stillp]

Any thoughts about values?
Pete

[where's it gone]

Any thoughts about values?
Pete

Highest to lowest
HW 80
Tracker
Crosman
MK3 (for spares)
Collectively, as a bundle, I would want change from £200-£250

[stillp]

Wow, I would have thought the HW80 worth that on its own!
Pete

[averageplinker]

Highest to lowest
HW 80
Tracker
Crosman
MK3 (for spares)
Collectively, as a bundle, I would want change from £200-£250

Are you saying that that you would expect to get all of these for less than £200-250????????????!!!!!!

[maximus]

Keep Tracker, give Hw80, and sell the others.

Agreed. If you want to raise as much cash as possible though the 80 is your most salable and should fetch £200 if in good condition. The tracker not far behind, maybe 150 to 175 depending on condition. Not sure about the value of the others. Selling individually will raise the best prices.

Regards Max

[stillp]

Thanks Max. Looks like the grandson will get the Crosman then! I might keep the mark 3 since I've had it for so long and it doesn't seem to be worth much. Don't know what to do with the SMK though.
I'm surprised the Tracker could be worth that much, I think I only paid about £70 for it. Not that I'm complaining! Did I mention that it's the short barrel version with a barrel weight?
Pete

[trajectory]

1. An early HW80 in .22. It's had the stock refinished reasonably well, and a Welsh Willie kit fitted. Also has a very nice Nikko Sterling Mountmaster 3-9 x 40 scope. Only had about 10 pellets through it since the WW kit was fitted.
2. Crossman Phantom in .177. Black synthetic stock, with a Centre Point 4 x 32 scope. Good condition.
3. SMK TH78D CO2 powered .22 in very good condition. I've had this one from new, it has the factory scope and silencer and is in as new condition.
4. Webley Tracker in .22. Has a few small marks on the stock but generally good condition and shoots well. Scope is a BSA "22 Special".
5. Webley Mark 3 in .177. Must be a fairly early model as is doesn't have dovetails for scope mounting but it has the later style of back block. Looks as if someone tried to weld a mounting rail onto the back block but the weld has been ground off. I have a good back block for it but haven't got round to changing it. Shoots very well. Stock seems to have been sanded and satin varnished.

I'm not much good at valuations but this is my thoughts. First not easy without pictures, & I suppose it depends a bit on what you & your grandsons requirements/likes/preferences are in an air rifle too.
If the aim us to raise money then I'd have thought the HW80 would be the most valuable. A quick look on guntrader shows what they go for sh. Dont think theres one on there under 250 but whether it's in comparable condition I dont know. Phantoms & SMK..?... new about 225 I think so would it be about 50 - 75% of that ? The Tracker, none advertised that I've seen after a quick look but 150 ish. Not going to try & value the Weebley, sounds do up-able & interesting so my opinion would be to hang onto that one. Bit sentimental about older stuff, & you've got the bit to restore it, hang onto it, hard to find another one easily.
Best of luck.

[Ajf123]

1. An early HW80 in .22. It's had the stock refinished reasonably well, and a Welsh Willie kit fitted. Also has a very nice Nikko Sterling Mountmaster 3-9 x 40 scope. Only had about 10 pellets through it since the WW kit was fitted.
2. Crossman Phantom in .177. Black synthetic stock, with a Centre Point 4 x 32 scope. Good condition.
3. SMK TH78D CO2 powered .22 in very good condition. I've had this one from new, it has the factory scope and silencer and is in as new condition.
4. Webley Tracker in .22. Has a few small marks on the stock but generally good condition and shoots well. Scope is a BSA "22 Special".
5. Webley Mark 3 in .177. Must be a fairly early model as is doesn't have dovetails for scope mounting but it has the later style of back block. Looks as if someone tried to weld a mounting rail onto the back block but the weld has been ground off. I have a good back block for it but haven't got round to changing it. Shoots very well. Stock seems to have been sanded and satin varnished.

I'm not much good at valuations but this is my thoughts. First not easy without pictures, & I suppose it depends a bit on what you & your grandsons requirements/likes/preferences are in an air rifle too.
If the aim us to raise money then I'd have thought the HW80 would be the most valuable. A quick look on guntrader shows what they go for sh. Dont think theres one on there under 250 but whether it's in comparable condition I dont know. Phantoms & SMK..?... new about 225 I think so would it be about 50 - 75% of that ? The Tracker, none advertised that I've seen after a quick look but 150 ish. Not going to try & value the Weebley, sounds do up-able & interesting so my opinion would be to hang onto that one. Bit sentimental about older stuff, & you've got the bit to restore it, hang onto it, hard to find another one easily.
Best of luck.

Value seems to be an interesting thing at the moment. I’m new to all this. People like me are entering the market. 50somethings with the kids flown or flying the nest, and possibly affluent.

Theoben Siroccos, Trackers, HW80s and FWB124s were as desirable and unobtainable as Ferraris when we were teens. We want that thing we couldn’t have as teens because of money and permission and that we couldn’t have as younger adults as we had no time nor anywhere to shoot and we’re worried about kids getting hold of them.

To me a pcp looks like something Anne Summers might sell. What do you enthusiasts say - if it ain’t got a spring it don’t mean a thing?.

A HW80 I believe can still be bought new so it’s price is capped by a new one. There is a finite number of trackers so I’d have thought that would be more.

With transport (time poor - I, as an example, haven’t time to drive across the U.K.) I’ve just paid more than anything quoted for an original 50 T01. Frankly if it needs it I’ll spend the same again to make it good.

If the tracker is good and OEM and it’s made easy for the buyer (certified < 12ft lb / arrange RFD transport) then it’s worth most. It’s probably the keeper as it reflects a point in time that can’t be repeated.

[stillp]

Some interesting replies, thanks guys. I was a bit surprised at the enthusiasm for the Tracker.
I think the Crosman will go to the grandson, and the Mark 3 will be kept. Haven't decided about the SMK yet. That means the HW80 and the Tracker are up for sale.
Pete