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    Discussion regarding the most accurate Air Rifle

    Imagine that you have an unlimited budget to purchase a PCP or Springer Air Rifle for a 25 m and 50 m Benchrest. What is your opinion would be your rifle of choice here in the UK? I also include rifles made in the EU and across the pond. The rifle purchased would not be used for HFT or FT.
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    Indoor or outdoor use, so many different variables, I'm no expert and I don't know any of the top end PCP rifles, so can't comment on which is the best, it'll also be down to pellets as well.
    Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in

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    Anschutz 9015 ONE or maybe the Feinwerkbau 900 when it gets here
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    It's going to depend on the individual rifle rather that the type or model.

    I've had a lot of accurate rifles over the last 30 years. The rifle which has been most accurate, most constantly with the widest range of ammunition, is my Steyr LG110 with a barley twist barrel from a year 2000 LG100.

    At 30 yards JSB Exacts go through exactly the same hole, it looks as though a single shot has been fired.
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    I've shot a lot of rifles over the years, nothing high end, I shot a home made single stroke pneumatic that could put pellets through the same hole in the indoor range we where at, I also put three pellets through the same hole with a .22 Air Arms Pro Elite I had just brought an hour before, my Prosport has also produced some stunning groups in the past, whether or not I could do it again, I don't know.
    Far too many rifles to list now, all mainly British but the odd pesky foreigner has snuck in

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    I had an Annie 9015 BR which is a wonderful piece of engineering and I scored my PB at BR25, I then matched that with an HFT500 and a home brew Kral, same scope on each rifle and all had weeks of pellet testing and setup.

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    Way toooo many variables, caliber, power, weight, distance to name just a few.... I have an Airlogic Genesis it's pretty good at FT but my Feinwerkbau 602 is in a different league at 10m, I have also shot a Rapid 7 at 30ftlb.....
    Its an interesting question.... Uhmmmm Whiscome....

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    Quote Originally Posted by simona View Post
    It's going to depend on the individual rifle rather that the type or model.

    I've had a lot of accurate rifles over the last 30 years. The rifle which has been most accurate, most constantly with the widest range of ammunition, is my Steyr LG110 with a barley twist barrel from a year 2000 LG100.

    At 30 yards JSB Exacts go through exactly the same hole, it looks as though a single shot has been fired.
    Another vote for anything Steyr. My LG100 was the most clinically accurate thing I've ever shot. I achieved my best HFT scores using my (custom made) HW100 Bullpup but that was more to do with the fact that it was made to fit me.

    As regards, the Steyr, if it's zero'd correctly, is bench rested and it's windless - you really can't miss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simona View Post
    It's going to depend on the individual rifle rather that the type or model.

    I've had a lot of accurate rifles over the last 30 years. The rifle which has been most accurate, most constantly with the widest range of ammunition, is my Steyr LG110 with a barley twist barrel from a year 2000 LG100.

    At 30 yards JSB Exacts go through exactly the same hole, it looks as though a single shot has been fired.
    Ditto. My barley twist LG100FT would remove staples at 50 yards. But to be honest, the barrel is only one component in a string of essentials.

    Fit is also a very under considered element. If it dont bloody fit to start with....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac42 View Post
    Imagine that you have an unlimited budget to purchase a PCP or Springer Air Rifle for a 25 m and 50 m Benchrest. What is your opinion would be your rifle of choice here in the UK? I also include rifles made in the EU and across the pond. The rifle purchased would not be used for HFT or FT.
    If you look at the best bench rest guns, there seems to be a lot of Air Arms with lothar walther barrels, even the HFT 500 unregged puts very good groups in. Strangely Steyrs which I also shoot seem to be more fussy on technique than other guns from what I have heard.
    BTW. Ive just put an order in for an ISP Airstream to be made with a Air arms Lothar Walther barrel and Anschutz trigger.Will that be the ultimate gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAN C. View Post
    If you look at the best bench rest guns, there seems to be a lot of Air Arms with lothar walther barrels, even the HFT 500 unregged puts very good groups in. Strangely Steyrs which I also shoot seem to be more fussy on technique than other guns from what I have heard.
    BTW. Ive just put an order in for an ISP Airstream to be made with a Air arms Lothar Walther barrel and Anschutz trigger.Will that be the ultimate gun?
    That is along my thinking. Take some of the best parts, or make bespoke parts better than what is available, and mount in a perfect stock designed specifically for you with length, height and weight all taken into account. A one off special.
    Along the lines of my XL1 mounted in a made to measure Paul Wilson stock, only much more unique.
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    My scoped Feinwerkbau 601 would shoot the fleas of an ant, excellent bit of kit.

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    This is going to be gun specific rather than model specific

    I've had a lot of top end guns, two or three of the same one in some cases, and most shot really well, but some shot really, really well, but it's trying to find them that is the hard part

    As it's for BR, don't bother with fancy adjustable and expensive stocks like the "one" from Anschutz, the BR stock they do is better for the job at hand, even if it looks a lot more basic.

    Fine tuning makes a difference for ultimate accuracy, and pellets are probably the most overlooked final part of the puzzle for 250/250 shooting with a shed load of Xs to boot, and most guns I've shot can get 248/249 on pretty much every card - but your looking for more than that

    My top guns have been - Daystate Red Wolf, Annie 9015, TM1000

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