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    Thankfully a shorter COL only reduces pressure in a necked case, rather than the increase I'm used to. Todays testing showed a best 50 grain group of 42mm, and 62 grain of 36mm. A little more on the COL should improve things, and a trigger with a less than 8lb weight has to help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    Thankfully a shorter COL only reduces pressure in a necked case, rather than the increase I'm used to. Todays testing showed a best 50 grain group of 42mm, and 62 grain of 36mm. A little more on the COL should improve things, and a trigger with a less than 8lb weight has to help!

    You've put the cart before the horse .

    Firstly , regardless of how a case is sized , a reduction in c.o.l will cause a reduction in case capacity and an increase in pressure , not a decrease .

    If you're trigger is so heavy as to affect your ability to shoot accurately, how can you trust your results . I suggest you sort the trigger then start again.

    I'm not sure why , but you appear to be in an awful hurry . You say you're new to reloading and then have jumped in feet first .

    If you're intent on doing seating tests , find the lands first , modern thinking suggests seating 0.020 " from the lands when doing initial development of charge weights . Though , magazine length may be a limiting factor as may bullet length if there is to be sufficient in the case neck . Then after charge weight tests do your seating tests .

    My suggestion would be to use the bullet manufacturers recommended c.o.l .

    You may struggle to get out to 800 metres as it's doubtful that a 16" barrel will give sufficient velocity for the bullet to remain super sonic at that distance .

    Good luck , I hope you achieve the results you're looking for .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Tales View Post

    1: If you're trigger is so heavy as to affect your ability to shoot accurately, how can you trust your results . I suggest you sort the trigger then start again.

    I'm not sure why , but you appear to be in an awful hurry . You say you're new to reloading and then have jumped in feet first .
    1: See my last post dated the 10th

    2: I'm not new to reloading, just .223

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinbum View Post
    1: See my last post dated the 10th

    2: I'm not new to reloading, just .223

    1 , read it before , have you sorted the trigger or developed forearms like Popeye?

    2 , the title implies your new to reloading , which makes me wonder why start this thread if that's not the case ? Especially, since reloading principles are applicable regardless of chambering .

    I suspect that what you really wanted was advice on powder choice and load data to suit your rifle barrel . If that is the case , then GRT is your friend, it'll also tell you if you exceed manufacturers maximum c.o.l by that I mean what they deem to be the minimum length of bullet in the case neck .

    Regardless, I don't think I've posted any misinformation and was written with good intentions, so hopefully my previous post will be of use to someone who is a newbie .


    Please share your results , it's always good to see a conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fox Tales View Post
    1 , read it before , have you sorted the trigger or developed forearms like Popeye?

    2 , the title implies your new to reloading , which makes me wonder why start this thread if that's not the case ? Especially, since reloading principles are applicable regardless of chambering .

    I suspect that what you really wanted was advice on powder choice and load data to suit your rifle barrel . If that is the case , then GRT is your friend, it'll also tell you if you exceed manufacturers maximum c.o.l by that I mean what they deem to be the minimum length of bullet in the case neck .

    Regardless, I don't think I've posted any misinformation and was written with good intentions, so hopefully my previous post will be of use to someone who is a newbie .


    Please share your results , it's always good to see a conclusion.

    You are entirely correct. Title should have been ".223 newbie, questions"

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    I haven't gone through each post in detail, but in a 1:8 / 16 inch 223 for non target (varmints) a 60 gn vmax is a good bet - something Hogdon CFE
    For target maybe 75 gn Hornaday
    Looking for TO-6 Trigger unit unmessed with or T0-6 kit for 34

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