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    Ha ha I can't believe this thes thread is still being debated...

    As usual with a debate I guess no conclusion has been drawn ..


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    Quote Originally Posted by prosport.177 View Post
    Ha ha I can't believe this thes thread is still being debated...

    As usual with a debate I guess no conclusion has been drawn ..

    The conclusion is that those of us who use it, know the benefits & how good it is,
    those blinkered that .177 is the only calibre that can hit a target, will never change .

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    The debate is difficult to conclude just over text. Where as in reality points can be proved and shown where he fits are
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrybear View Post
    The conclusion is that those of us who use it, know the benefits & how good it is,
    those blinkered that .177 is the only calibre that can hit a target, will never change .
    Ha ha yes I agree that is why I shoot .22

    The .177s getting used less and less )

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrybear View Post
    The conclusion is that those of us who use it, know the benefits & how good it is,
    those blinkered that .177 is the only calibre that can hit a target, will never change .
    That argument works just as well for blinkered .20 shooters too
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    Shot placement is the only thing that counts when hunting.
    Any calibre delivered with precision will do the job.
    Size difference between calibers does not make up for errors in delivery.
    Rats are the smallest critter, and pretty small, their vitals tiny. A .177 drilled through one is a big hole, but a .25 a giant hole; .20 or .22 very big.
    Squirrels are bigger and tough, and require a vital to be destroyed for instantaneous end.
    Pigeon are similar, with the added issue of larger calibres being stopped in the crop and feather plugging at longer range, which basically means head shots at longer ranges.
    Rabbits can take hits from all calibres so unless a heart or head shot then not going down on the spot.

    All calibres are easy enough to master at farmyard ranges, 20m or so. From 25m onwards then range judgement, ballistic drop, and wind calls, have to be absolutely spot on. The most forgiving calibre is the .177 because of its velocity which is marketably higher than any of the other calibres. It retains enough energy to drill through to a vital at those extended ranges too.

    If I was shooting just farmyard ranges then 20 or .22 would be great choices. Some would argrue the .25 too, but that is loopy even at such short ranges. These do give a solid smack too. Anything further then .177 precision is better because it is easier to deliver the precision demanded.

    If you have a rifle that isn't that accurate, most springers, then you are limited to farmyard use. If you do have a super accurate rifle then you can go a good way further. However, range estimation has to be so much better and for the larger calibres; that is .22 1/2m perfect, .25 1/4m perfect. Without a range finder that is beyond most people.
    And then there is the wind to contend with. Why FT and HFT use .177s.

    If I only could have one rifle for all ranges then it would have to be a .177. But I don't have just one rifle
    Last edited by Muskett; 14-02-2023 at 05:18 PM.

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    Ditto.
    It would be .177 for me as well.
    However, I have lots to choose from.
    .25 x1 Springer and x1 PCP
    .22 x2 Springer and x1 PCP
    .177 x2 Springers and x4 PCP's
    No need for me to have .20 at all...or any more guns for that matter ...I'm packing... lol.
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