Air Arms Precihole Indian Partnership

[greenwayjames]

Air arms had a budget uk gun in their stable once upon a time .......bought out falcon run it into the ground and shut it down ...... history doesn't lie

Not quite correct. They didnt have any choice. The owner and kingpin of the Karachi, Pakistan based subcontractor of most of the components passed away and supplies dried up. It would not have been economical for the components to be made in the UK

[averageplinker]

Not quite correct. They didnt have any choice. The owner and kingpin of the Karachi, Pakistan based subcontractor of most of the components passed away and supplies dried up. It would not have been economical for the components to be made in the UK

Areyou sure that is what happened?
Rich

[greenwayjames]

Areyou sure that is what happened?
Rich

Yes

[mattyw1987]

I’m my opinion if they’re machined well and they use a lothar Walther barrel then they could end up okay but if they charge the thick end of £700 for a unknown Indian barrel aswell as action I think they will struggle.

[WILBA]

I’m my opinion if they’re machined well and they use a lothar Walther barrel then they could end up okay but if they charge the thick end of £700 for a unknown Indian barrel aswell as action I think they will struggle.

It's cheating the consumer to thinking you are buying a genuine AA made rifle when it's just rebadged crap.

[WILBA]

Let's be honest would you be happy buying a 2k+ daystate to find out it's just a rebadged kral? Same thing really.

[Hartcliffer]

From my understanding, the X200 is designed by Air Arms, but made by Precihole; the Precihole guns that were on display are to be imported by AA and sold in the UK under the Precihole name. If this is the direction that Air Arms want to take, then that's their decision. Personally, I would feel more comfortable buying an Indian air rifle sold by AA, than a Chinese air rifle sold by SMK; at least AA KNOW what they are looking at.

[old goat]

Let's be honest would you be happy buying a 2k+ daystate to find out it's just a rebadged kral? Same thing really.

Ñot what AirArms are saying if you follow the videos from the show, the only Indian made gun that will have the AirArms name on it is the x200 designed by AirArms, a replacement for the s200 which was also outsourced, and if my memory is correct having a retail price of around £500/£600
All the other Indian made guns will bear the Precihole makers name and will be distributed by AirArms as a competitive priced range

[mattyw1987]

It's cheating the consumer to thinking you are buying a genuine AA made rifle when it's just rebadged crap.

I get you bud I really do but I feel they all do similar now? Don’t Daystate source a lot of the components and then just assemble them? If so that’s kind of similar they just don’t get them pre built.

[look no hands]

Not quite correct. They didnt have any choice. The owner and kingpin of the Karachi, Pakistan based subcontractor of most of the components passed away and supplies dried up. It would not have been economical for the components to be made in the UK

Forgive me for asking because I know nothing about these sort of matters, can we really not produce components over here for a reasonable price, is it materials that cost more or the machining process? I would have thought by the time shipping costs and taxes are added then it would even out?

[Dragonboy]

Forgive me for asking because I know nothing about these sort of matters, can we really not produce components over here for a reasonable price, is it materials that cost more or the machining process? I would have thought by the time shipping costs and taxes are added then it would even out?

Labour and overhead costs are a lot higher here