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    Spring air pistols that tried to fashion themselves after real firearms.

    I thinking of creating a display at coming airgun shows of post 1900 air pistols that were purposely designed to look like real firearms. Any thoughts beyond this list?

    1. Westley Richards Highest Possible - Webley Service Revolver
    2, Haenel 28 - Luger
    3, Tell 3 - Luger
    4. Hy-Score - Luger
    5. Targ-Aire - Luger

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    I thinking of creating a display at coming airgun shows of post 1900 air pistols that were purposely designed to look like real firearms. Any thoughts beyond this list?

    1. Westley Richards Highest Possible - Webley Service Revolver
    2, Haenel 28 - Luger
    3, Tell 3 - Luger
    4. Hy-Score - Luger
    5. Targ-Aire - Luger
    Here are a few suggestions:

    HW45/Beeman P1 - 1911. Well an oversized one!

    LP-210 - a generic pocket sized semi auto.

    Walther LP53 / Predom Lucznik KL-170 - Walther Olympic

    Umarex Mini Uzi

    Umarex MP7


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    The Chinese Arrow did a pretty good job of simulation:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Here are a few suggestions:

    HW45/Beeman P1 - 1911. Well an oversized one!

    LP-210 - a generic pocket sized semi auto.

    Walther LP53 / Predom Lucznik KL-170 - Walther Olympic

    Umarex Mini Uzi

    Umarex MP7


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    I'd certainly go with the HW 45/1911 lookalike despite the disparity in size !
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    [QUOTE=Blackrider;8355517]I'd certainly go with the HW 45/1911 lookalike despite the disparity in size ![/QUOTE

    I would agree regard double the depth and thickness but the front geometry completely different as is the rear section.
    The 1911 is also raduised in its profile over the barrel housing. Only the grip has any semblance of 1911.
    I always found it a bulking contrivance. Top heavy in both appearance and handling for it.
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    I disagree with the grip - look at the lines of the original Browning Colt 1911, it’s straight back and the grip plates closely follow the edge of the frame. The HW45 doesn’t. The only similarity is the spacing of the screw holes, meaning you can fit Colt scales. The HW and Colt ones just don’t look right though on the HW45.

    https://www.browning.com/news/articl...11-pistol.html

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    What I am looking at is that the design was definitely influenced by, not that it was a perfect representation. So I would agree that the HW45 would be one that I didn’t think of but would be certainly in the ball park. The Hy-score though certainly not perfect, in the paper by the designer, Lawrence said a Luger shape was his desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashf9999 View Post
    I disagree with the grip - look at the lines of the original Browning Colt 1911, it’s straight back and the grip plates closely follow the edge of the frame. The HW45 doesn’t. The only similarity is the spacing of the screw holes, meaning you can fit Colt scales. The HW and Colt ones just don’t look right though on the HW45.

    https://www.browning.com/news/articl...11-pistol.html
    Yeah agreeing. Ok none if it looks like a 1911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad3 View Post
    Yeah agreeing. Ok none if it looks like a 1911.
    And here’s Colt’s page showing they don’t look like an HW45…

    https://www.colt.com/product-categor...lassic-series/
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    https://www.colt.com/?s=1911

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josie & John View Post
    Here are a few suggestions:

    HW45/Beeman P1 - 1911. Well an oversized one!


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    Even though it is a poor match when grip angle, slide size etc is compared, the overall effect is a 1911. It looks like a cartoon version of one, the slab sided grip, the long hammer, the long blocky slide, the slots in the rear of the slide, it is definitely a bad artists impression of a 1911. Unfortunately it is not the airgun equivalent of that old fightin' iron, it is an annoying beast. They would have done better to upgrade the HW70.

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    I've always thought Beeman/Weihrauch missed a trick with the HW45 by not going the extra design mile and scaling down the cylinder housing, probably by making it a concentric model. This would have made the grip to action proportions more like the 1911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 45flint View Post
    I thinking of creating a display at coming airgun shows of post 1900 air pistols that were purposely designed to look like real firearms. Any thoughts beyond this list?

    1. Westley Richards Highest Possible - Webley Service Revolver
    2, Haenel 28 - Luger
    3, Tell 3 - Luger
    4. Hy-Score - Luger
    5. Targ-Aire - Luger

    Marksman Repeater is a true 911 lookalike.

    Not spring powered, but these CO2 pistols are replicas/lookalikes:
    Crosman 38C & 38T for S&W models 14/15
    S&W 78G/79G for S&W model 41
    Healthways Plainsman for Colt Woodsman/Nambu cross

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swissairgun View Post
    Marksman Repeater is a true 911 lookalike.

    Not spring powered, but these CO2 pistols are replicas/lookalikes:
    Crosman 38C & 38T for S&W models 14/15
    S&W 78G/79G for S&W model 41
    Healthways Plainsman for Colt Woodsman/Nambu cross
    To which we could add the Crosman mk1/2, modeled on a Ruger but again CO2 powered

    Does the Record Jumbo count? Obviously it’s not modeled on any particular firearm, but I don’t think there can be any doubt they were going for the overall look.
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