Crossman 1377 PCP Pistol Query

[mjr1983]

Morning all.

Many years ago back In the late 1970's I can remember shooting my fathers Crossman Medalist PCP pistol. It was a multi pump In .22 calibre and by memory had a wood coloured grip and handle.

And I am now thinking of maybe buying a similar pistol, just for doing some back garden/target shooting. But I'm guessing that the Medalist pistol was discontinued many years ago and has probably been replaced by another model, maybe the Crossman 1377 pistol.

So I was just wondering If anyone could give me any info regarding the differences between the original Medalist pistol and the more modern 1377.

Info such as, would the newer 1377 Crossman model be as reliable as the original Medalist and what calibres does It come in. And also are these pistols prone to leaks or any other negative issues?

Any info and opinions guys will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

https://www.pellpax.co.uk/airguns/ai...77-calibre/292

[TonyL]

The later Crosman pump-up pistols use a bolt to cock the action as opposed to a separate "cocking knob".

Still very, very accurate and often overlooked, I feel.

Ones produced over the last few years have a hole drilled into the valve so they can't build much pressure. They probably only make circa 2.5-3ft.lbs. But some nice peeps on here will be able to advise the fix to restore power. Only offered in .177 in the UK. Very reliable.

My Phase III (bolt action) makes about 4.6ft.lbs on 10 pumps using lighter pellets. Would probably make a little more with heavier pellets? But I generally use it on only 3 or 4 pumps down the garden.

Love this platform to bits.

[leetrenchard]

I had one of these as a "youth" in the 1970s.

The medallist of this era was the 1300, recognizable by a sort of breech door that slides back, no cocking mechanism of any kind.

This type self cocks after firing it's last pellet/first pump operation.. Only drawback with this is that the trigger pull gets heavier as you pump.the pistol more!

Bought a couple over the last few years for the nostalgia. Relatively easy to refurb them, bagnall and Kirkwood sell a reseal kit including the "quadseal" (square cross section O ring)

[TonyL]

Did those very early ones have a valve / trigger set-up similar to the 140 rifles, then?

So would it have been second generation pistols that were rear cockers with the separate breech cover / probe?

I've used Bagnall and Kirkwood a few times over recent years. Very nice & friendly and efficient. I bought a 2250 valve assembly from them just last week.

--ped-- on the forum has excellent knowledge of these and can supply various parts and seals etc.

[TonyL]

https://rangeandcountry.co.uk/crosma...tiMk__eFeQBxRs

Available at Range and Country, Sleaford, Lincs.

Cheaper and they also deliver, if required.